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Kommentar von skitzosmeagol

Like previously stated any hostile actions will break invisibility, but if you break invisibility 2 seconds in, you still lost some threat during those 2 seconds. Evocation+Invisible is now viable when raiding, because by the time they are both done (5seconds) you should have full mana and 0 threat ^_^. This is effective for thwarting death before wipes :D you pop invisibility go ooc and dont worry about dieing.

Kommentar von 17925

I have a question it says no hostile actions but what about Bandaging.. it is not a hostile actiong it would be like a paladin healing himself with divine protection which doesn't allow hostile actions so in that sense wouldn't drinking in a sense be a non hostile action?.. Idk if you can drink while under divine protection but in all fairness...

Kommentar von flambe

Pretty much anything you do other than run (and don't get hit) cancels the effect.

Frost Nova + run and invisible does indeed reset the mobs so long as you don't get hit during that 5 seconds until you turn invisible.

Mounting cancels it. Blink will cancel it. Bandaging cancels it. Eating or drinking cancels it.

If you have a DOT on you it will cancel on the first tick of the dot.

Kommentar von Drayn

A lot of good points were made by other people, like getting taken out of combat, etc, but one thing I don't like about the fade (in more of a PvP and solo PvE perspective) is that even if you have Ice barrier or Mana Shield up you still lose the fade effect if you get hit. (and all of the damage is absorbed)

If the fade would continue even after damage taken is completely absorbed as well as possibly a shorter cooldown on the skill (maybe just a minute or two taken off) I would enjoy it a lot more.

Kommentar von 4828

This does not share a cooldown with invisibility potions, so you can bust out up to 38 seconds of invisibility if you use one at the last second of the spell.

Kommentar von kadaan

I've never been able to eat/drink while invisible on boss fights. It gives me the error message saying I'm still in combat. However if the group wipes, I don't get boss aggro when I'm invisible and I can survive. I haven't tested it on non-boss encounters (mainly because I don't go OOM on trash pulls,) so I don't know if you can go invisible and eat/drink then.

edit: Yes, I'm referring to raid bosses. 5-man "bosses" are still just level X elites and not actually tagged as a boss.

Kommentar von 34921

Since this is a % of base mana and you get it at 70 isnt the nman cost going to be about the same for everyone?

Kommentar von Swordy

They nerfed this skill. You used to be able to cast while this was on, reducing your threat until your cast goes off (I would just right click it off) but now as soon as you start casting it goes off. This takes off a lot of useability from it, like trying to keep Scorch up.

Kommentar von 27922

What would be great here if someone posted a comprehensive guide on the tactics, mechanics and cool stuff you can do with Invisibility. One that is a definitive guide, not with all this arguing about out of combat crap etc and people contradicting each other.

Kommentar von Eqweex

Was raiding UC today and found out that just after you enter the main gates of Undercity, there are some level 15 invisible ghosts that can only be seen while invisible. Not really relevant to this spell, but I thought that if you have to use it to see them, maybe it was worth posting it if someone wanted to know. :)

I didn't have enough time to check them out because I had to leave right after I found it out, so will check back tomorrow and see if they are in the circular room as well. (The one you hear voices in if you stay there some time and listen carefully.)

Kommentar von 40551

I think it's a shame that this ability was turned into an aggro dumping tool, rather than a true stealthing ability. I'm not saying it should have been just like a Rogue or Druid's stealth, but 20 seconds every 5 minutes is pretty restricting.

Having Mages along on "stealth runs" would certainly be very nice. It was even alluded to by Blizzard posters on the forums some time back, but it just doesn't seem very plausible with the spell as it is now.

I hope that we can expect a new rank or two of this spell in the coming expansion to up its duration, and perhaps increase its usefulness beyond dumping aggro and escaping combat.

Kommentar von 142095

would this spell b that good, like we cant realy do anythin like backstab. i guess its good 4 sneaking around ppl and running away. and also im new to wowhead commenting, what does it mean when its in green?

Kommentar von 80916

Just to clarify, while fading, do those around you lose sight of you at a certain point as if higher and higher levels of Stealth were being applied? So far as I can tell from PvP usage, enemies can clearly see you for the full 5 seconds, but that's just perception.

Kommentar von 60802

Dont expect this ability to actually DO anything at bosses in T6 Encounters, it relies on luck against several bosses, ie that you dont get hit from aoe abilities (Rage Winterchill, Anetheron, Azgalor, Shazrah) or isn't even an option on several boss encounters (Kaz'rogal (dont have time to spend 5 sec doing nothing), Teron Gorefiend, and Essence of Wrath, good luck with periodic auradmg every 3rd second.

Kommentar von lithera

What invisibility value does this give, if it is <1000 then warlock detect invisibility can detect it

Kommentar von 158518

Using Invisibility in PVP(Particularly Arathi Basin) can be useful when the Horde or Alliance are fighting away from the flag; and sometimes when players go "AFK" while standing next to the flag.

On several occasions in Arathi Basin I have gone Invis, ran up to the side of the flag where I am least likely to be seen, and started to assault it.

Occasionally when I reappear there have been Horde members standing right next to me, but for whatever reason, be it 'shock', 'AFKness', or pure stupidity I have been able to assault it right before their eyes.

Now, I would never encourage solo missions in AB, but this tactic can be very useful in close games when one assult- even if the Horde is able to eventually defend it- can be the deciing factor between victory and failure.

Kommentar von 151415

It says that if you receive any actions, the effect is broken. People have equated this to damaging effects and the like in the comments that I've read.

DOT ticks will cancel the effect, is what's been said.

Will HOT ticks on you cancel invisibility?

As in, Renew + Invis?

Kommentar von 207151

Just sent Blizzard my compliment about 'Flare'...

That just makes no sense at all, why does it break Invisibility? I understand it breaking stealth, really understanble and It's meant to break stealth but Invisibility..?

It's a spell, a magical ability, some kinda 'light' shouldn't be able to break it...

If some more could send the same compliment to Blizz with their regards (lol), they may fix it on next patch.

So what are you waiting for! =D

http://eu.blizzard.com/support/webform.xml?lan=en

Kommentar von jeast

What would happen if you went Invisible with a Water Elemental out. Could you still fight with the Elemental? Could someone still target it?

Kommentar von 122437

The spell says it drops threat every one second for 3 seconds until you turn invisible, I assume you drop 1/3 of your threat every second, but can anyone confirm?

Kommentar von 131016

If you use a Swiftness Potion right before you cast Invisibility then the speed effect still stays on. You can also drink the potion while fading. Don't drink it when you're totally invisible or you'll break the invisibility buff.

This can be very useful for getting past mobs as well as a good way to escape any combat.

Kommentar von 165543

From my experience if u turn invisible with ur elemental out the mobs will be waiting for you 2 reapper on the spot and when u do they all come running

Kommentar von 258919

Pretty cool move. If you pull too many mobs and have enough distance you can get away hopefully.

In addition, it plays the ghost music when you're invisible, and that music is probably some of my favorite in the game.

If you use this in the courtyard above the Undercity (in the Ruins of Lordaeron) you can see the ghosts of Lordaeron citizens. If you use an instant cast spell, you can kill the ghosts. But if you use a longer cast spell then the invisibility cancels before you cast and there's "no target"

This also has a semiuseful instance use. If you pull too much threat in an instance and are about to beat the tank out at it, using this will greatly drop your threat rating so you can start over.

Kommentar von 201933

You can see the pally Consecration "dust", and presumably other AoE effects while invisible. Steer clear: if you get hit, you're visible again.

Kommentar von 346316

Does it stop threat generated by guards? Could you essentially kill a member of the opposing faction in a town like Gadgetzan and quickly go invisible before the guards could kill you? (Though it would probably be easier if this is possible to have Prismatic cloak to reduce the fading time)

Kommentar von 170498

I really can't believe no one has mentioned this yet, but this spell is AMAZING for BGing in Strand of Ancients.

When you're attacking, instead of jumping in the huge, slow, unwieldy Demolisher that screams "FOCUS FIRE ME," nab a Seaforium Charge, and start running for the gate, making sure to stay the hell away from the Demolisher, or wherever the action is.

Take advantage of the confusion, and go Invisible. You will almost definitely have a clear path to the gates, although you should make sure that you avoid any Warlocks and their vision. Get to the gate, plant the Seaforium, and run back to get more.

This is especially useful for the last gate and the relic chamber, where all the major fighting will be. Make sure to avoid where you think will be AoE.

Kommentar von 393152

Lifeblood can actually be cast while invisible-A nice way to regen a little hp if your using this spell as an escape move!

Kommentar von Willemstyle

I find this spell very useful for escaping when in trouble.

Even when you didn't spend talent points in this skill, 3 seconds fade time seems to be nothing to worry about.
In my experience, it can very easily save my life if i use this skill when i'm low on HP

The biggest downside while escaping with this skill, is you don't see any monsters while escaping. If your invisibility is about to end, you must be sure the location where you moved to doesn't have mobs hanging around.

Kommentar von 27922

As of 3.2.0 you can take damage during the "fade out" phase without any complications.

In addition, does anyone know what happens to your water elemental, non combat pets, etc, while you are invisible? They do disappear, I suppose?

Kommentar von n4rt0n

When you lifeblood invisible it will not only not break the invisible effect as it's not going to proc any animation (those little flowers on the floor) so you don't have to worry about your enemy knowing where you're.

Edit: About the pets and stuff, they're still gonna be on combat and if your pet is still on combat and you just got out of invisible you'll still be on combat regardless, but if it dies/disappears while you're invisible you'll be again out of combat.

Kommentar von 407365

#showtooltip Invisibility
/stopcasting
/cancelaura Invisibility
/cast Invisibility

Macro I use for this spell. Nice to have a 1-button cast/cancel especially in dungeon or raid situations where you might need a quick threat dump. Pressing one button twice is easier than searching through a sea of buffs for a single icon to click.

Kommentar von PalaDinka

@forgottenring
Water elemental doesn't stay because it's your guardian but with glyph of eternal water u should be able to do this right?

Kommentar von forgottenring

Here's a nice one button escape macro if you have dots or a group pounding on you:

#showtooltip
/cancelaura Ice Block
/castsequence reset=15 Ice Block,Blink,Blazing Speed,Invisibility
This will cast in sequence Eisblock, Blinzeln, , then Unsichtbarkeit. Hold shift and press the button again after you ice blocked to cancel it you'll blink away at the same time. Then once more to invis. Up to you if you want Blinzeln and in there since they both use a GCD, but I like it because they give you a head start in running away out of melee range. Plus, Glyphe 'Blinzeln' can give even more distance. has the added benefit of suppressing any slows that may get applied after unblocking. If you use the talent, you can safely vanish right away with this macro. The 15 sec reset is there in case you want to wait out in the Ice Block before blinking and the macro won't reset.

EDIT: Cleaned up outdated stuff

Kommentar von 670958

If i was level 68 and facing a level 80 mob or player am i then totally invisible to them? Or am i visible like when a rogue stealths?

Kommentar von Esalya

It would now seem that you can see enemies while invisible (in addition to allies). I've had it this way since the 4.0.1 patch. It might be a bug, but I'm hoping it's not.

Kommentar von Ghar

As of 4.0, you can now see other people while invisible, not just people that can see you. Those that can see you will have an icon over their head. (Shaped like a large orb with 2 smaller orbs orbiting it.)

Kommentar von plath

4.0.1 raised the level requirement for this spell to 78.

Seems a strange move. Most interesting abilities had their level requirements lowered.

Kommentar von Gabeluq

This spell has come some ways since its original implementation. It's a lot more useful now, being able to see everyone when you are invisible is a great change it has made much more powerful.

Kommentar von 849686

Most people forget that mages can turn invisible (a.k.a. stealth). This spell has a lot utility in PvP and can help escape from sticky PvE situations. Remember that the spell takes 3 seconds without talents to be considered 'stealthed'

PvP
Can be used to sneak behind a large mob of players unnoticed and then begin to attack from behind. If glyphed, you earn +40% speed and that can really help out to cover ground unmounted.

PvE
Can be used to escape tough enemies. Remember that this spell takes 3 seconds without talents to have full effect. Frost nova and then a blink is useful to handle the fade time.

- This talent will decrease the fade time 1 second per talent point and is a 3rd tier arcane talent.

Kommentar von Aaygo

Now that we, mages can actually see people while invisible, it came at a price. We can no longer see other invisible mages. Found this the hard way in arena today. We were both invisible and I did not see him coming.

The fact the he still got the jump on me, despite that, is still a mystery. I'm open to ideas as to how he knew where I was.

Kommentar von 759155

Using Invisiblity gives a Washed out view, and also creates a fog, lowering how far you can see, but meh. Mages arn't Rogues.

Kommentar von Thottbot

"While invisible, you can only see other invisible targets, and those whom can see invisible." If they can't see you, you can't see them either. Disappear only to reappear in a worse position than you would've been otherwise. Against those who can see invisible, this spell is wasted mana and 1.5 global cooldown better spent on attacking. Combat wise, its useless for anything other than regaining some mana. It also reads "The effect is cancelled if you perform or recieve any hostile actions.", which sounds like anything that would put you in combat. Interacting with objects doesn't put you in combat however. The spell might be able to be used to capture ab/av nodes and loot chests and what not without being caught....assuming theres noone spamming aoes...

Kommentar von Thottbot

YOu people are stupid. Don't you ever do BGs? You can now go invis, walk right into flag room, or to a base in any BG completly undetected. You'll appear right on the flag and grab it, you don't need to see anyone, you know where the flag is, its same with bases. This is a godly BG tool. Even with that aside, it'll be good in PvP anytime you need to get by or around a group of enemies, whom would otherwise rape you. I guess these guys would rather die then go invis and run past them untouched. Warlocks are the single, sole class that can cast the detect, no one else, inless theres a Warlock around, theres nothing to be worried about.

I also see it being very great in PvE as well. You can nuke up a boss, then completly drop aggro, and start all over again. People are complaining that it doesn't save you once you have aggro, that was never the point idiots. Use it without aggro, just to dump and start over. Its the same reason any Rogue spams Feint against a raid boss, so that he never gets aggro to start with.

I only wish the mass of clueless newbs didn't post.

The only question is whether or not AOE damage will drop the invis, I can't test this because I'm not a Mage. Due to this spell, Mages are now another infiltrator in any BG, the 20sec invis easily gets you into anything when used right.

Kommentar von Thottbot

yeah I am a mage lvl 70 engineer,and I was going to change my proffession before the BC comes out but I've finally wait to see what could be usefull for me.Since I have this new spell and since I saw that I was out of combat with it,I've made some tests like:drinking,eating and even change my trinket and also use my jumper cables to rez someone while my friends was in a fight!
SO! YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO BATTLE REZ SOMEONE!:D
and I did!:P
the best thing to do is keep your cables on you before the fight becuz its a 30 second cooldown before its ready and if something bad happen to one of you,you can try to rez the dead players:P

yup you are free to do anything you can usually do when you are out of combat!

Kommentar von Thottbot

tested it: if u grab aggro on bosses the aggro dump doesn't rly help tht much because you will get 1-3 ticks, depending of the distance...
sure i use it alot in pve - it rocks the house :)

BTW: it puts you out of combat so in a boss fight u can (if u don't have aggro) invis -drink, eat

Kommentar von Thottbot

its a good spell very handy if your soloing old instances and u just want the bosses

Kommentar von Thottbot

Erm personnaly, I own in PVP with this spell..
ice mage, you summon your pet.. shoot off invi.... and send your pet to hit the target..

you can thus see exactly where the target is because you can see your pet and his ice bolts ;)

Ok agreed the CD is very cheap, but the spell its self when used correctly is a killer :) I owned a 70 hunter at lvl 68.. throw pet at him and nova him and invi sneak attack him, you get too him in invi and nova again, spam javelin etc.. easy

of course you cant just do it while somone is shooting you... but its a surprise sneak / stealth spell so, use it accordingly :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

im a priest, i use invisibility potions...which they changed to behave like this spell...and let me tell you...it ROCKS!...its so FUN..

in PvP or w/e...(wen not in BG)...i run...and right wen i go out of combat...*BAM* use the pot, and run or w/e...

i love the potions..but this has to be better then the pots...lucky...ya'll have fun stuff...

Kommentar von Thottbot

does anyone know if using engineering pets like harvest reaper/dragonlings/exploding sheep pull you out of invisibility? im gonna test this once i hit 68

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hmm, when u cast invis and then ice barrier, will the ice barrier protect ur invis from being broken when u receive dmg? (kinda stopped my mage at lvl 60 when BC came out but wonna know :D )

Kommentar von Thottbot

Are you able to mount while invisible? If so, you could get pretty far away by the time you fade back in.

Kommentar von Thottbot

you learn from trainer

Kommentar von Thottbot

I use this quite often in Arena. Helps a lot getting behind the enemy, sheeping on and AP/POM Pyro+fireblast+blast wave+scorth till dead. When my mate was D/Ced this has helped me won ;) Also pretty good in PvE.

Haven't tried this in BGs but I think it's almost undetectable. I mean, how many warlocks care to rebuff with detect invisiblity when they respawn? :S

Kommentar von Thottbot

*Sighs* ...

Ok . Invisibility, First of all it is a VERY handy spell , to all those ay sayers out there.

I mainly use it to keep prevent my from dying when my party/raid is about to wipe. the tricky part is actually getting Away from any attacks/hostile Dot's etc etc for those 5 Seconds . My usual would be FN , Iceblock (the Macro Version where you IB and instantly come out of it, Basically just drops dots)
then frostnova and pop invisi.

Then Equip my Cables and rez the priest/healer

Also good for BG's ... Stealthy capture is always good :)

Another thing i saw someone ay in here was that Ice barier is not considered a hostile spell or whatever . FYI That if you cast ANYTHING ! While invisible it will dispell , not cool :(

Anyways . Invisi is a great spell , learn to use it and you will love it :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

This thing is HELL fighting against in the Arena (I'm a Warrior). Keep thinking we can expect a team of two rouges or something, then some mage comes out nowhere and freezes us in place, and starts AOEing our asses off.

Kommentar von Thottbot

this spell is fun to use in arena cause i do 3v3 arena. im a druid and my other teammates are frost mages so i prowl and tell them where they are and then we just do a suprise attack and own, its so fun

Kommentar von Thottbot

and also...no you can not see anyhting no npcs no other players only yourself....but what happens is people like in Stratholme(helping someone) who can see Stealth can see you and will attack you....so watch out for hounds and stuff like that

Kommentar von Thottbot

ok guys

Takes 5 seconds to activate complete aggro dump
Lasts 20 seconds.
ANY damage will take you out/stop you from going in
You can leave battle to eat/drink
You CAN see anything that can see you
If you can not see them, they can not see you
..im tired so if i remember ill come back to this tomorrow..

EDIT: im too lazy to write more..so work with that, mark me down, i dont care, i wont even remember i posted this in about 2 days

Kommentar von Thottbot

The "fading" and the actual invisibility isn't only removed my damage; any hostile actions remove it, so if someone casts a spell on you but you resist it, the invisibility/fading buff is still removed :'( oh well.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I cant' wait to get this spell! As a pyromage, I know how annoying it is to hav 10 mobs come at u at once. The spell should take that away.

if u get mobbed, get ur teammates to pull them off, then go invis and rest up.

Also, for any noobs out there: Invisibility does NOT slow ur movement speed down (sucks to be u rogues).

Of course it only lasts 20 sec, and has a 5 min CD, but think of how far u can move in a BG with invis compared to -30% stealthed rogues. =)

Just a thought!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Basicly, heres how it works:

Over a period of 5 seconds, you start to fade out, when you're completely faded, you're invisible to anybody who can't see invisible. However, you can't see anybody who can't see you.

Any action will break it, if you can't do it while ghosted (save for eating and drinking) you can't do it while invisible either.

Usefull for making a quick getaway from gankers, gotta be careful though.

Kommentar von Thottbot

wow any of the top few posters realise that this might not be a spell for raids and PvE...i have seen a 5v5 team with all frost mages who :
Ice barrier
Invis
Run behind enemy group
Summon water elementals(Freeze)
Ice lance the healer(s) to death
Finish of the rest of the team.

works quite well but doesnt work unless EVERYONE uses invis at the right time.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i gues lol

Kommentar von Thottbot

The best use I have found for this spell is in Warsong Gulch. Twice I was able to invisible up to the enemy flag carrier (on the roof) and solo burn him down before his little gauntlet of defense could come up and save him. Even with a healer, you can surprise sheep one of them and possibly get a quick kill if you get some nice crits. If they see you coming they are way more likely to be able to run away or CC you or just plain DPS you first.

Kommentar von Thottbot

They should have a pic of nothing lol

Kommentar von Thottbot

i used this in uc and i saw lvl 15 ghosts that u can attak

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have a question, Can u use this to see the spirits off ppl who are dead? They count as invisible right?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

After 2-3 weeks of using this spell in various situations, I'm not entirely convinced that it adds much value to our class. I can see it being used in a raid boss fight to drink, but unless the fights are ridiculously long 2 mana pots, 2 mana gems and evo should be enough to last you (plus you don't waste dps time to go invisible and time to drink).

As far as using it when wiping to save your repair bill, I'm usually the 2nd or 3rd on the aggro list, so once the tank dies I'm out of luck, since "any hostile action" will break it.

Oh, but what about the aggro wipe? Unless you use it pre-emptively (which one could argue whether you needed to use it at all, at that rate) I have high doubts you'll get it off once a boss is aggroing you.

All in all, the spell seems more trouble than it's really worth. I suppose it's better than nothing, but Blizzard's so busy nerfing the PVP possibilities of it that they screw the folks that solely or mainly PVE. Just my thoughts...

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