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Kommentar von 38374

This is THE premier damage dealer for a feral druid.

With the mangle debuff you can regularly see +2k crits (at 70) with shred and with the shredding attacks talent this becomes the skill with the highest DPS output.

If you have another feral druid tanking your DPS will be even greater because you wont have to reapply the Mangle debuff.

For solo grinding this is very useful in the Pounce -> Mangle -> Shred Combo. If you have Omen of Clarity and Shredding Attacks you can even get 2 Shreds in if OoC procs. This will take most normal mobs below 10% if not kill them altogether.

The same goes for PvP opponents.

Kommentar von 24962

This is the druid's backstab. Used until you get "Ravage" (ambush) at 36 I think, or 34.

Kommentar von 73742

Can someone verify this for me please?
Rate me down if you want, but this is only a question...

Can enemies dodge when attacked from behind or not?
I recall having multiple times where my Shred was dodged. I even remember reading it in the combat log: "Your Shred was dodged by (name)" or however it is written.
It may have been that as soon as I used it, the target turned around and dodged it, but I highly doubt it.

Kommentar von 104402

I just got 50, and spent the talent point to get mangle. And i've found that mangle does just about exactly the same ammount of damage as shred. And mangle is less energy to use then shred even if you have put points into Shredding attacks.

Should I just remove shred from the action bar? It seems kind of pointless to have. Or when hit 70 and have new ranks of shred/mangle will this change?

Kommentar von Kampai

Anyone know if the Bleed bonus apply to bleeds already applied to the target?

Kommentar von Serai

yes it applies to bleeds already on the target, the reverse is also true

if your rip ticks for lets say 500 with mangle up and mangle expires halfway trough the next rip tic will be lower. so for pve dps its vital to keep the mangle debuff up at all times

Kommentar von 102481

I've had my feral druid at 70 now for about 5 months, and i can say with almost absolute certainty that shred and mangle have nothing in common. Also as Aumann stated as soon as you get mangle, it does more dps than shred even if you are talented correctly. Later on you get better shreds and than it becomes more useful. but it still is hard to say if thats better, shred has a odd number of energy cost, not to mention if you spent points and got omen of clarity or w/e its called the faster you attack the more free attacks you get. What I generally do is mangle as much as i can till that procs, than use shred. that way i keep up my damage, speed, and with rip out my mangle debuf, as well as the idol's buff.

Kommentar von 83076

How is it possible for this to be dodged when coming out of stealth when it requires you to be behind the target and you cant be dodged from behind?

Kommentar von 65759

what's this thing about mangle increasing shred damage? The tooltip only says bleed damage.

Kommentar von 127338

I have no idea what the point of this talent is at lvl75... when you train this, Mangle-Cat (Rank 4) is available for training too.
In TBC Shred used to be superior dmg/energy, due to it being only useable from behind, and was the main attack in the dps cycle, however at lvl75 Mangle does more dmg and costs less energy.

Kommentar von 175113

Incidentally, with expertise in game now, bosses chance to dodge can be brought to 0%.

26 expertise (6.5%) is enough to prevent any dodges as bosses have a 6.5% chance to dodge.

Note it is different from the 9% chance to miss a lvl73 which is only addressed by +hit.

Kommentar von Feato

This is the main attack of any raiding cat, while mangle is used only for it's debuff.

Kommentar von Hawkedge

Expertise has always been in the game :P
Just, no one used it.

Kommentar von 431184

Hi,
i'd like to introduce an idea that might solve a few of our problems.
Some ferals complain about shred's pos requrirement, but maybe the ability would just be too op if they removed it, and i dont want the feral to become an other utilitiyless class with insane burst that people just whine about (aka ret).
So here is the idea:
Claw should get a 10 sec CD whith a 3 sec lockout effect (off GCD off course), the whole thing could be added to a high level feral combat talent so that it could remain a DPS ability at low levels (above Leader of the Pack, a good
candidate could be Predatory Instincts). They could raise the Maim cooldown to 20 sec like Kidney Shot hell, even 30, i don't mind, or they could just put it on the same cooldown with Claw.
I think we just deserve a crappy off GCD off CP interrupt like all the other classes (except rets). I'm just tired of being unique in watching the healers castbar helplessly raising.
Thx for reading and if you like the idea then just keep it alive, spread it everywhere.

Also, since they nerfed Rend and Tear to the ground and we are the only spec with 2 51 pointers
(the feral tree is very bloated and this way would become even more) they could change it to a 3 rank talent.

Kommentar von 182403

Suggestions should be made on the official forums, wowhead, like other sites is just for sharing information that is actually active in game, discussing uses and possible counters/problems.

Actually I don't really get what your saying either. If you post on the forums you'll have to explain yourself better.

Another thing:

I'm just tired of being unique in watching the healers castbar helplessly raising.

I guess your also tired of things like cylone, using natures grasp to instant root melees, having a last stand trinket, switching to bear if you done enough bleeds and there is incomming damage from melees, travel form, a passive snare, tigers fury, berserk and last but not least immunitiy to polymorph effects. Blizzard already stated that the homogenization has gone to far already (and right they are!). Gl tough.

Kommentar von 540064

666 bonus attack
OH SHI-

Kommentar von 283513

Effects which increase Bleed damage also increase Shred damage

- MAngle increases shred damage with 30%? cool...

Kommentar von 176919

Does anyone know if Shred is affected by mastery bonus?

Shred: Effects which increase Bleed damage also increase Shred damage
Mastery: Increases the damage done by your bleed abilities by 25.04%

Kommentar von Hazardious

I tried this ability on an NPC, but it's VERY hard to pos yourself behind the target. Could anyone give me tips on how you can get fast enough behind a target to use shred?

Kommentar von Vexallius

Every time I see a feral druid using mangle instead of this as their main combo point and damage booster, I die a little inside.

Kommentar von Helly

with 4.1 goes live there is nice bug with Shred - it not consume clearcasting state, so when u get Clearcasting - just spam Shred and /flex at recount :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

a rogue could probbably beat that...
not shure tho...

Kommentar von Thottbot

was 298 with TF.

Kommentar von Thottbot

lol. u want us to think u made a SINISTER STRIKE at lvl 19 for 687 dmg? roflzor stfu.

Kommentar von Thottbot

There is absolutely no way that a 19 could get 600+ with a sinister strike lol

eviscerate/ambush are only things that i think that could come close

Kommentar von Thottbot

Backstab

Kommentar von Thottbot

This move is great, i crited around 260-290when i was lvl 22, i was horrible at that level but now im like a semi twink, note, for you newbs or even experienced players , don't just use this as a starting move! Every once in a while if you get the enrgy quickly enough, run around the opponent and use shred.(only in pvp, it doesn't work on monsters)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hehe as my lvl 29 twink druid it ROCKS! works same as backstrab but with talents in feral it will be 2 shred with full energy! Love it when ppl run from me xD 2 backstrabs non-stop!

In case you wana see my char
Here he is ^^
I recently changed talents for natue gasp... thought itd be cool for flag carier but its crap.... getting shred asap xD

Kommentar von Thottbot

lol

Kommentar von Thottbot

1 lvl away from my druid backstab! lvl 21! look him up Bluemm!

Kommentar von Thottbot

my 22 lvl feral druid not twinked hited 289 crit with this spell :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

The reason why rogues bactstab/ ambush hits harder than ravage is that do you see many rogues have an attackspeed ov 1.00? which for me at least hit for inbetween 20-35 EACH attack? no. Cat druids is more burst dmg, rogues are more one massive damage with some finishing moves. End of story.

Kommentar von Thottbot

yay double shred ftw! 257 crit then 90 shred right after then "rip" them to "shreds"

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does this get 100% critical damage bonus? My regulars hit for around 100 and crits hit for 200, strange

Kommentar von Thottbot

Get shredding attacks asap it makes dpsing in instances alot more fun (and viable) till you unlock mangle. Also At 36 you get pounce and this is a sweet time for d00ds, why you ask? Well 2 TP in improved Pounce/Bash gets you a 4 sec pounce and 2 TP in shredding attacks lets you get in 2 shreds before they can attack you >:3

Kommentar von Allakhazam

anyone find it odd that druids get sneak attack?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

yeah hes right, im a druid, i just got cat form (lvl 20) and catform is like rogues, stealth and al, bear form is like warrior.

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