Kurzübersicht

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1.	Seltsame Allianz
2.	Allianz mit den Gelkis
3.	Diebstahl von Vorräten
4.	Ongeku
5.	Khan Jehn
6.	Khan Hratha

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Kommentar von 6107

BORING....I had to kill 200+ centaurs of the other clan to get my rep up high enough to finish this quest. I started at 2200 rep, and had to raise it to 3000. The thing is, I was only getting 5 rep from each kill, and some would only give me 1! Only start this quest chain if you are a true grinder.

Kommentar von 10574

You start at 2000, you get 20 rep. per kill - 50 kills to 3000.

Kommentar von Thottbot

you don't slay gelkis if you want to speak with Uthek, you slay the magram. Uthek is part of the gelkis clan, and you are trying to strike an alliance with them.

Kommentar von Thottbot

where are these clans?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Uthek the Wise is at 36,79.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You can find the magram on the other side of the kodo graveyard: 65,76

Kommentar von Thottbot

The best thing to do with this quest is to pick one side/ one quest, and kill only one side to gain honor with one clan, once you gain enough honor, you will glow green, kind of like if you leveled, but green. then go turn in the quest.hope this helps.

Kommentar von Thottbot

A bit of advice...

if you're a lock have your VW put away, i dont know why even though i have friendly rep they kept attacking him.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Everyone starts with 2000/3000 neutral with both centaur clans. Each kill is +20/-100 rep if they give exp and +4/-100 rep otherwise. Bosses (there is only 1 of each clan) get you +25/-125 rep if they give exp and +5/-125 otherwise.
You become KoS with one clan after 20 kills, slightly faster if you kill the named. To get friendly you would need 1000 rep which is also 20 exp kills but to get the 1000 rep from no exp kills takes 500! IMHO you will be grinding rep for a lot of different factions in the end so there is no point burning out early by faction grinding near useless centaurs.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is there any in choosing to kill either faction? Would I lose any possible shortcuts/routes to other places if I chose to kill the magram as opposed to the gelkis or vice versa?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wise Found At: 36,79

Kommentar von Thottbot

uthek is at 36,79

Kommentar von Thottbot

You cannot do both

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does it make any difference which faction you choose?

Kommentar von Thottbot

If u do the: Gelkis friendly quest, there's a genius place for mages^^ Helped a friend with this quest(he's a mage) and we discovered the place. Close to Warug, all bodyguards stands(there's 2 of them) and one other Magram. When u kill the bodyguards, they respawn after like 2 seconds or something. So, what we did was that he ran in killed the bodyguards, and all thoose that spawned, I healed him so there was no problem with health. We killed like 15 bodyguards in 2 min. The bodyguards have the same reputation bonus, so there's no problem with that. Suggest that all mages do the Gelkis side of this quest!=D

Kommentar von Thottbot

you get good grinding xp for the quest and you get about 2k xp for the quest.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Gelkis Clan 37.87 (approx)
Magrams Clan 69.75 (approx)

Both Clans are neutral with you...(yellow)

Just don't accept "Brutal Politics" from Cpt. Pentigast. Go kill the Magrams...it'll be around 50 deaths for them to become hostile towards u.

Hotkey "K" select Reputation Tab...

Keep killing until the Gelkis becomes allies with you then you can talk to Ethek the Wise 36.79

-I got 2050XP @ lvl 37
-Pick up follow up quest "Raid on the Kolkar"

Kommentar von Thottbot

Gelkis Clan Area: Around (39,81) Area towards SW corner of map.
Magram Clan Area: Around (60,73) The lakes at the SE area of map.

I personally suggest becoming friendly with Gelkis, simply because you will be able to reach Ferelas easier with the path.

~Melagius~
Malygos Server

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Killing undead ravagers works for the faction.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It might technically be possible to do both this quest and Brutal Politics...

Both quests are chains ending at about lvl 42, and you must retain your reputation with your chosen clan to complete them. F.or each kill you gain 20 rep with the opposing clan and lose 100 rep with the clan you killed. So to complete one quest and then try to reverse your reputation with the other clan to complete the other quest would not only take more kills than the first but would also be a waste of time since you would already have exceeded the level of the quest. After reviewing each chain of quests to the end, I have chosen this quest for several reasons.

1. the Gelkis are enroute to Feralas, and the Magram are easily avoidable. I didn't want to compromise future travel

2. you can collect Centaur ears from the Magrams to complete the quest Centuar Bounty

3. this quest will not cost me money or have any hard to obtain items as certain aspects of Brutal Politics does

4. Although the end reward for this quest is not usuable for my character it will fetch more cash (almost twice as much) in the end & I already have better equipment than the reward for the other quest.

So I suggest reading through the forums for the quests yourself and then decide which one you might want to do.

p.s. I read somewhere on one of these quests that you can open your Reputation Menu (K) and uncheck "at war" with your unfriendly clan and they won't attack you. I haven't tried this yet, but it's worth a shot.

and Uthek the Wise is at 36,79

Edited, May 19th 2007 10:12am by gratefulbeauty

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Do not work for Rep, I just killed three of them at level 34, and got nothing.
Edit: And yes, I got the faction bars first.

Edited, Dec 26th 2006 1:45am by Inelegent

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You get the quest and head directly south on the road to Magram Village 70,70.

You have to start killing Magrams to gain trust with the Gelkis.

3000-2000(where you start)/20 per kill is 50 Magrams must die to win.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Uthek the Wise is at 36, 79. Took me a while becoz he is not showing in my minimap although I changed the faction. Luckily i'm a hunter and find him by scanning his names. Also the Question Mark is covered by the hut.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Unless you gotta have absolutely something that one of these two camps gives - don't DON'T mess with this or the other quest.

just stay neutral with both.

i had to go 3 kills into hostile to get the other quest. it took 30 kills to get this faction back up to unfriendly (3.01)and lowered that faction down to unfriendly (about 3.78). what a pain. if you want to kill tons of centaurs great. this other camp is by a road to another zone so you really don't want to have problems crossing there.

after i came in here and read the quests i said - so what.

so - my advice avoid the centaur quests except for the one the corporal hands out and doing the bodyguard for the goblin.

PS: if you gotta do this - kill at higher than your level, you hit the faction level faster because it goes: so and so has increased SLIGHTLY and so and so has Decreased - when you complete the kill

Kommentar von Allakhazam

35->36 rogue, pickpocketed the centaurs while grinding, got ~8 lockboxes that were yellow at 100 skill, 5 superior healing pots, some food. also got 15 centaur ears for another quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I assumed that horde could do this chain since the next two parts apply to BOTH, i also see that someone further down the page put that horde is able to do it as well. Im assuming here was a different starting point for the Horde. Im standing at the captian right now just to see and he Definately is hostile to me and no way for me to talk to him. Sooo... anyone know where the starting point for the horde is or what i might need to do to get this quest?

20 min later...Ok nvm, I found it. Def a differnt starting spot for horde.

Edited, Mar 24th 2007 8:11am by RellikkK

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I personally advise killing the Undead Ravagers for the fame. The Gelkis game goes up at the same rate, but the Magram fame decreases slower. It is quite possible to unlock Gelkis quests if you do all Undead Ravagers and few Centaurs. I have Gelkis as Friendly and I still have about 1/8th of a bar before Magram will aggro me. I've only killed 2, maybe 3 Magram however.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The Horde can also do this quest

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Loc 36,79

Edited, Tue Jan 10 01:13:32 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you kill Warug's bodyguards (2 beside him, he doesn't aggro) at 75, 68 you can get speedy rep since the guards respawn extremely fast(though only 1/4 the rep). Just make sure you pull them a bit away from the origional spawn point since they aggro when they flee and the constant fighting can wear you thin.

Edited, Jan 1st 2007 5:59am by Deserous

Kommentar von Allakhazam

so im gonna say you cant do brutal politics AND strange alliance?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

completed with level 31 druid/feral

Kommentar von Allakhazam

finished this quest, got like at least 14K xp for all the grinding of the first 1K rep (was rested for a while) got 2050 xp for handing in, and -250 rep for magram, +250 for gelkis at level 36. Leads to a new quest where you have to pillage and rape the kolkar which are straight east of nijels point (that's where i got centaur ears, but i guess it would have been smarter to do this quest and the ears one at the same time)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Done it. Hunter 36.

Coords: 75,50

drop rate like 1\3

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Good to know you can change factions with the centaurs.

Thanks!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I found that instead of running around killing the centaurs in the village, it is better to camp at the island where the boss is. Every time you kill the boss you get a "slight" increase, instead of a "very slight" for every regular centaur. It takes about 8-10 minutes for the respawn though, but up to you what you want to do in that time ^^

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I was killing undead ravagers (which are still 2-3 levels above me) for faction today, and my reputation didn't budge with either the Magram or the Gelkis.

Kommentar von TerribleAtGames

My recommendation:
If you are a quest collector or desperately needs XP, start with the opposite questline Brutal Politics before you start with the nuking of the filthy Magram clan during this questline here starting with Strange Alliance. It is simply a lot more satisfying giving the Gelkis clan revenge as they actually are a kind clan from the beginning of.

And if you do not collect quests or desperately needs XP, abandon Brutal Politics and forget about it's existence.

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Seltsame Allianz

Baut eine freundliche Beziehung zu den Gelkis auf und sprecht dann mit Uthek der Weisen.

	Gelkisklan (Freundlich)

Beschreibung

Wir können von Glück reden, dass die Zentauren sich untereinander bekämpfen, denn als vereinigte Kraft könnte sie nichts aufhalten. Ja, das kommt uns zu Gute und wir sollten unseren Vorteil ausbauen.

Einer der Zentaurenklans, der Gelkisklan, führt einen brutalen Krieg gegen den Magramklan. Wenn wir die Magram angreifen, können wir vielleicht eine Allianz mit den Gelkis schmieden.

Sprecht mit Uthek der Weisen im Randbezirk der Gelkislager im Südwesten von Desolace. Durch sie könnten wir eine Allianz mit den Gelkis schmieden.

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

-500 Ruf mit der Fraktion Magramklan
100 Ruf mit der Fraktion Gelkisklan

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(1382))

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