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1.	Seltsame Allianz
2.	Allianz mit den Gelkis
3.	Diebstahl von Vorräten
4.	Ongeku
5.	Khan Jehn
6.	Khan Hratha

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Kommentar von 5484

Fun facts:
Each kill gives you 20 reputation, while taking 100 reputation from the opposing faction.
Therefore, it will take you 50 kills in order to become Friendly with the prescribed faction.

Kommentar von oraro

Before accepting this quest or Magram Alliance (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=1367) it is a good idea to check the rewards for the final quest in the series since you can only complete one series without taking a lot of effort faction grinding after finishing one series.

The rewards for the Gelkis Alliance series are:
-Gelkis Marauder Chain (mail chest: 14 agi, 7 str https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6773)
-Uthek's Finger (off-hand: 5 stam, 5 int, 5 spi https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6774)

The rewards for the Magram Alliance series are:
-Magram Hunter's Belt (leather belt: 8 agi, 9 stam https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6788)
-Ceremonial Centaur Blanket (cloak: 2 int, 9 spi https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6789)

Kommentar von 15585

The Magram Villiage is located around 73,73

The Gelkis Villiage is 37, 86

Kommentar von jporter

Solo as Warrior lvl32, no problems :) 70, 73

Kommentar von 52663

If you are too high level you get only 4 rep instead of 20, could take some time to begin the quest chain then...

Kommentar von Thottbot

hit C and go over to reputation and it will show you. now i cant figure out where Uthek the wise is. anyone got chords?

Kommentar von Thottbot

he can be found at the very southwest of desolace at the gelkis camp

36,79

Kommentar von Thottbot

Where are these mob's located? cant see any magram something newhere...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Location of Magram Village is around 73,74

Kommentar von Thottbot

Every Magram I killed was worth 20 rep with the other clan. You can watch your rep by going to character info/reputation and watching the points add up. Took me 80 kills to get from 1400 to 3000, and it didn't matter what centaurs I killed.

They are based around 65,80

Funny thing is, they just let you walk up to them and start smacking away. Even when your rep goes to unfriendly, it's hard to aggro.

BTW, since you have to kill about 40 magram, get "Centaur Bounty" befor you start. Might as well be collecting centaur ears as you go along.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Killing Khan Jehn at 67,80 gives 25 reputation gain with Gelkis and 125 reputation lost with Magram.

He's a lvl 37 mob, with a lvl 35 marauder with him. Took both down as a lvl 34 Shadow Priest (with one health potion).

Kommentar von Thottbot

u got the xp from grinding the centaurs silly

Kommentar von Thottbot

Who gives that qu? Cordinates?

Kommentar von Thottbot

i completed Gelkis alliance and it jumped right to step 3, sealing supplies, bypassing the Kolkar raid, what's up with that?

Kommentar von Thottbot

"Mister 'Wise'" is located at 36 79
(co-ords)

Kommentar von Thottbot

You turn this quest in to Uthek the Wise who is located at 36, 79 hope this helps

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you just read your quest AND the comments that are already posted, u know everything u got to know, people post 5 times they do not know the place of uthek while it is posted b4, so READ EVERYTHING, IT'S ALL THERE, stop be�ng lame

Kommentar von Thottbot

Can u do both quests? i mean.. the one with the alliance of gelkis and the alliance with magram? Cause I have both quests on my log... so what? first gain reputation with one and then with the other? or what?

Kommentar von Thottbot

To collect, the coordinates are: 36, 79.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You have to open your rep window, check the 'at war' after clicking the faction you did to get friendly with, and uncheck it for the faction you went hated with. Then, kill the faction you're newly at war with until you reverse your faction.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Although you don't get aggro off the centaurs, if you happen to be attacking one when the Magram pack runner walks by, you will get aggro from the pack runner (lvl 35), and his level 37 and 38 pets, as you're fighting the other mob. Learned this the hard way.

All in all, not a bad grinding quest. Around 200-220 xp for each kill, plus lots of silver and silk cloth drops so can't complain.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This quest is taking maby 30min to do, im a 35lock and did this on 20min almost nonstop. just start to kill em, then they will get orange and then red. They are aroung cords ::71.71::. press U and then press on the 2 swords to the left where your Gelkis rep is, then it stands "show as xp bar" push that and then ull see when u are done with the q, more easyer to see how much its left.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You could do both quest if you want to invest a ton of time. You can complete the complete string of quest with one of the clans and then put yourself at war with them. Then kill them for the next 24 hours or so until you become friendly with them. Complete waste of time but you could complete both quest.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm pick pocketing them as I go first. I've got a few dozen lock boxes full of goodies before the kill! You could grind here for item and gold just picking.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You need to go to 73,73 on the desolace map.

Kill all the enemies, you get -20 per enemy then and you need -1000 reputation so you need to kill 50 of them.

I was lvl 35 got 650 xp.

turn it in at 35,78

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anyone know if any parts of this quest series gives Darkspear Troll Rep? Only reason I would waste so much time on this one is b/c I want a Raptor mount for my Orc hunter in 5 levels and need more Troll rep.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is possibly the worst quest ever! You only get 650 xp for killing a million of these stupid centaurs. So... if you do it, you may as well get Centaur Bounty before (as was mentioned before) because it's going to take killing 100 of them to get the 15 ears you need. What a waste of time!

Kommentar von Thottbot

where r they located

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It takes 50 kills to become friendly with a centaur faction. it takes 51 kills to become hostile with a centaur faction.

Hit the combat tab (on the chat screen) after you kill one of the centaurs. It will tell you how much more faction you need to be friendly/hostile and how much that faction that kill gave you.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is this quest bugged? I'm alliance and got the Brutal Politics quest, but I never found the Mangram guy to talk to become friendly with them. And while looking for something else, came upon the NPC for the Gelkis clan. It had a silver Q-mark and when I talked to him, he wanted me to kill many of the Mangrams. There was no quest to accept, it was just.. understood, I guess.

Anyhoo... wondering what's going on.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I was killing Magrams till I was so caked in dried blood, that I looked like a giant scab. and with that visual aside, all I got to show for it was more silk than god can carry, and a Crystalpine Stinger. whoopdeedoo dah day. @_@

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I was killing magram centaurs and watching my reputation with them fall, while my reputation for the Gelkis never climbed after a certain point. I noticed that the "at war" boxes for both Gelkis and Magram were checked. After I turned those off, my faction for the Gelkis began to climb again. I don't know if you can get good faction with them if the at war option is turned on. Might not make a difference, but it seemed like it did.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where do I go to kill the monsters that give me the Rep.?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

/agree

reward is not worth the time... but if your in dire need of exp and a quest.. here you go

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I cannot find the magram..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The rewards for this quest chain are:

Gelkis Marauder Chain
Binds when picked up
Chest Mail
238 Armor
+14 Strength
+7 Agility
Uthek's Finger
Binds when picked up
Held In Hand Miscellaneous
+5 Stamina
+5 Intellect
+5 Spirit

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's not bugged you have to kill enough of the oposing faction (Magram) to gain Friendly status with the Gelkis. Check your current standings by viewing you character profile. I'm not sure if it helps for not but I removed the "at war" checkmark for the Gelkis and then started killing Magram. An easy quest since the Magram won't attack you on sight. There is also an oposite quest in which you could kill Gelkis and gain favor with the Magram. I don't think you can do both since once a faction has become Friendly you no longer can attack them.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's been a while since anyone posted faction numbers, so I assume messages and possibly numbers have changed in the meantime. When killing Magram, as a level 32 warrior, the faction increase with Gelkis is 20, and the decrease with Magram is 100. I neglected to make a note of the faction you start with, but iirc it was 1500/3000, midway through the neutral bar. So, 15 kills to be kos (unfriendly) to Magram, and 75 kills to be friendly with Gelkis.

Edited, Mon Nov 28 14:55:52 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is it possible to get higher then friendly with either one of these clans or is the max friendly? Also.. What happens if you become friendly with them... Or do you just finish the quest?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

it took me 2 hours to get friendly
i sluaghtered so many
got quite a bit a silk clotg as wel :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

if you have not killed any of the oposing faction of centaur you start at 2000 / 3000 rep with both factions. As you kill one side you lose 100 faction with that side, while gaining 20 faction with the oposing side. You need 3000 rep to get friendly so..... assuming you havn't killed any of either side you will need to kill 50 centaur of your choice to get friendly. 3000-2000 = 1000/20 = 50 pretty simple.

Anyone that it took more than 50 kills must have killed oposing faction first then chose to do this one. that's the only possible reason for it to take more than 50 kills. Pretty simple..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

forgot i had this quest cord is 67, 80

took me less then 30 to 45 min to clear camp and i was done

Edited, Fri Jan 6 12:10:24 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this quest: Diebstahl von Vorräten

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I chose the Magram Quest, and I am crossposting for possible relevance. I counted the number of Gelkis kills, and checked my rep before and after I started and did a few calculations.

0.0026 rep decrease with Gelkis Clan per Gelkis Clan centaur killed at lv 37. 0.0077 rep increase with Magram clan per Gelkis clan centaur killed at lv 37. if you take this quest at lv 37, which is a lv 33 green for me right now, to go from 4.0 neutral to friendly (at 5.0) for Magram it will take 130 centaur kills. If you get the quest at a lower level, it will take 35 or so centaur kills, per firsthand accounts by groupies.

You can do your own calculations by checking the Reputation tab on your character.

Edit1: I am sooooooo dumping this quest... currently at 4.7166667 (Neutral) with Magram Clan, and 1.8319444 (Hated) with Gelkis Clan. At this rate, for me to get to 5.0 (Friendly) with Magram, I will need 0.2833333 increase in rep. With my calculations above, and I've been getting 73 or so xp per kill (hardly leveling material), it will take me 36.79 more kills to reach friendly, or 37 kills.

Edit2: Hrm. maybe I will tough it out. 37 kills, with about 68 copper per kill (guestimate), gives me 2516 copper = 25 silver 16 copper. on third thought.... I'm going to STV.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

it might take a while to get reputation but not 2 hours. If you were level 37 then you waited too long to play this quest. It's a level 33 quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is a faction quest, plain and simple. If you solo, you can expect to have to kill in excess of 210 centaurs to get from neutral to friendly with the opposing centaur faction. Additionally, the drops are at a minimum. You will mostly get some coin and silk. Occasionally, you will get some sweet nectar drops. However, if you are expecting a green or blue drop, you will have to consider yourself lucky if you get one.

Good hunting!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where abouts does it end? I don't know where to find Uthek the Wise. And I don't have co ords beacuse I am on a mac. Please help

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you just want to deal with the packleader Magram and not his pets attack him near water. Pets will not enter water, then solo him.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You have to remember that the time it takes to complete this quest is based on your level. I was level 31 when I went in here (was with a level 34 warrior) and we cleaned up and was done in 45 minutes.

The moral is to do this quest early to get it over with. If you have to, stand near the border and pull one at a time making sure it isn't more than say 3 levels higher than you. I suggest the south border to avoid the wandering useless beasts that may agro.

Kommentar von Wyr3d

I read through the advice given for both chains, and considered the gear rewards, but to be honest, what is most important is the XP, right? Naturally, the Alliance scum get more in the chain (typical Blizzard) than the awesome Horde with the faction introduction quests.

(Alliance)
Brutal Politics - 2,050xp
Assault - 2,550xp
or
Strange Alliance - 2,050xp
Raid on the Kolkar - 2,550xp

(Horde)
Gelkis Alliance - 660xp
or
Magram Alliance - 660xp

(Both)

Gelkis Questline
Stealing Supplies - 1,350xp
Ongeku - 2,850xp
Khan Jehn - 2,850xp
Khan Hratha - 4,300xp and this or this

Total = 12,010xp

Magram Questline
Broken Tears - 2,650xp
Gizmo for Warug - 2,050xp
Kahn Shaka - 2,850xp
Khan Hratha - 4,300xp and this or this

Total = 12, 510xp - but costs the price of one Advanced Target Dummy server dependant (1gold 30silver on my server - not worth 500xp)

Basically, Alliance scum get more XP than Hord regardless of the chain you pick, or if you're crazy and grind back rep to do both chains. Magram rewards an extra 500xp, but you'll need to pay out some cash for it, so factor this into your choice. The gear rewards are pretty meh, and it's likely you have better - but if you somehow have worse, it might be worth it to you.

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Allianz mit den Gelkis

Baut Euch einen Ruf als freundliche Person bei den Gelkis auf und sprecht dann mit Uthek der Weisen.

	Gelkisklan (Freundlich)

Beschreibung

Um die Zentauren zu schlagen, müssen wir ihren Hass gegen sie wenden. Wir verbünden uns mit einem Klan und lernen durch ihn, wie wir alle Klans besiegen können.

Wenn Ihr Euch mit den Gelkis verbünden wollt, dann tötet ihre Gegner, die Magram. Wenn Ihr Euch den Respekt der Gelkis verdient habt, dann trefft Euch mit der Schamanin der Gelkis Uthek der Weisen am Rand des Dorfes Gelkis im Südwesten von Desolace.

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Belohnungen

Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

-500 Ruf mit der Fraktion Magramklan
100 Ruf mit der Fraktion Gelkisklan

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(1368))

Allianz mit den Gelkis

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