Holy Paladin State on the Shadowlands Beta - Return to Holy Power, Glimmer of Light, Infusion of Light

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PelinalHammer of Wrath Paladin DiscordHoly PaladinBaseline Toolkit Changes

Holy Power Resource System: Similarly to Retribution in BFA and former incarnations of the spec in prior expansions, Holy Paladins have once again inherited the Holy Power resource system. Holy Paladins will generate Holy Power via a number of generators holding up to a max of 5 Holy Power. They'll then spend 3 Holy Power on one of a few mana-free spenders.

Generators: , , , and / via .

Spenders: , , , and (Talent).

Aura Revamp: Auras have been extended baseline to all Paladin specializations rather than talents specific to Holy Paladins. Instead of only having access to a single aura throughout an encounter, Paladins now have access to 4 different auras at max level that can be swapped at will. Because these auras do not stack with those of other Paladins, if multiple Paladins are in a raid then there'll need to be some organization to take advantage of this extra utility. Holy Paladins retain the exclusive ability to empower their chosen aura and should be considered when assigning auras for Paladins.

REMOVED: Aura of Mercy and Aura of Sacrifice

REWORKED - No longer diminishes the damage reduction based on the number of allies in the aura radius instead just a flat 3% damage reduction. Nerf for any group smaller than 3, but exceptional buff for larger groups. The empowerment increases the damage reduction to 15% for 8s, a 5% nerf compared to its BFA functionality.

NEW - What was previously the Heart of the Crusader passive has now returned as an aura that affects all allies as well. The empowerment increases the 20% mounted movement speed increase to 60% for 8s. It is worth noting paladins still had this passive baseline, and now must always switch auras to take advantage of this. This does impact . Personally love the return of this aura because of how impactful this can be for your group E.G getting out of the gate and to different objectives in battlegrounds could be.

NEW - The Retribution Paladin passive but in aura form granting 8s of when an ally within 40yds dies. The empowerment grants an additional 4s of for a total of 16s with the Shadowlands leveling perk. For a Holy Paladin, this aura is interesting as it can be very powerful in the final phase of a fight as players tend to die off slowly as an encounter concludes. Think 's final phase if you need to consider how strong this could be. Ideally, as a healer you want to prevent any and all deaths wherever possible so this can be somewhat counter to your main goal; however, sometimes due to specific mechanics players are destined for death and this can be seen as an exceptional boon that Holy Paladins can take advantage. I think the base ability can be quite strong, but the empowerment feels quite weak especially when you consider the precise timing required to achieve the benefit and generally how much more useful 15% raid wide damage reduction tends to be.

NEW - A favorite aura returns reducing interrupt and silence durations. The empowerment grants full interrupt and silence immunity for 8s. Not since the days of have players in PvE been frequently silenced or interrupted, this will almost certainly be invaluable in PvP.

New Baseline Holy Paladin Abilities:
NEW - A more limited Holy Power generator that can only be used on enemies below 20% health or during with the level 58 perk. While the ability itself doesn't heal, as a Holy Power generator it does contribute to throughput and the cooldown can be reduced by haste. With the addition of Discipline's and subsequent legendary, there's a general trend toward giving healers execute abilities that significantly contribute to throughput which can be a fairly controversial move. Specifically, the final 20% of a bosses health tends to be high incoming damage burn phases where high healing and damage are required to secure the kill. Having two healers provide both execute damage and additional healing is a questionable call, especially when the two specializations given an execute have typically been heralded as the premiere healers in BFA due to their extra utility and rarely struggle to find placement in Mythic raids because of this utility.

NEW - Single target healing Holy Power spender with very few limitations. With the rebalance of and the sheer strength of , you'll want to avoid eschewing your spenders and capping on Holy Power.

- A defensive and AoE damaging Holy Power spender. Requires you to be in melee and properly positioned to maximize your damage. Overall nice to have a way to deal AoE damage beyond and or even as a minor physical damage reduction. While it's rare for Holy Paladins to use 2-handed weapons it definitely pops up on occasion. Limiting itemization is never a good thing unless there's a meaningful trade off. Remains off the GCD even for Holy Paladins.

NEW (Level 54) A unique tracking ability that will probably have limited uses, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have the ability.

NEW A thematic albeit limited crowd control ability for Paladins on a 15s cooldown for a single target and a range of 20yds. Might see some uses for Shadowlands with a fair amount of undead; however, because it instantly aggros the target and causes them to flee in random directions aggroing other nearby enemies, there tends to be way better more controlled crowd control abilities. Perhaps better in PvP for various pets, etc.

Shadowlands Leveling Perks:

NEW Rank 2 (Level 44) Casting Flash of Light or Holy Light on your Beacon of Light grants 1 Holy Power.

While not specifically a leveling perk received during Shadowlands content, This passive helps offset the cost of directly healing a beacon, similar to the mana return Holy Paladins had before. Due to the low ability to generate Holy Power currently, this may be a mana efficient way to heal, however is a significant throughput loss. Because you need to heal your target, you lose out on the beacon transfer healing which at the buffed 50% can be fairly significant to your overall throughput. It can feel even worse if your target doesn't need healing but you still are wanting to generate Holy Power in preparation for incoming damage.

Rank 2 (Level 56)

A small duration increase to the granted by taking it to 12s baseline or 16s with the empowerment. Nice perk but definitely not game breaking.

Rank 2 (Level 58)

Turns this execute generator into one that can be used anytime is up. With a few additional ways to gain in Shadowlands, becomes an even more significant generator for Holy Paladins.

Reworked Holy Paladin Abilities:

Holy: Wrap a single ally in holy energy, causing your heals on other party or raid members to also heal that ally for 40%50% of the amount healed.

With transfer increasing to 50% healing this is a large passive increase to Holy Paladin healing on tanks. How much of this will be effective healing remains to be seen especially with other healers receiving fairly significant tank healing abilities. Think the strong legendary from Restoration Druids with as an example. Here's hoping that tanks are going to get absolutely trucked throughout the entire expansion.

The bread and butter Holy Power generator for melee Holy Paladins. This change makes it so that even Melee Holy paladins can oom, however it also means there is no room to use spells such as, and even with active which are spells that saw larger mana increases. As a side effect of this change Holy Paladins lose the ability to deal damage without spending mana outside of . While not huge other healers could spend open GCDs with damaging spells to still contribute while generating mana. This means generally as a paladin if you want to play conservatively, or are already oom your only option is to press no or fewer buttons and wait for passive mana regen.

Holy Power generator for both caster and melee Holy Paladin. The mana cost helps offset the addition of the free Holy Power spenders. Did receive a small hit to throughput in Shadowlands. Last time Holy Paladins had Holy Power this spell had a shorter cooldown, as such Holy Power generation is significantly hampered comparatively to previous iterations of the spec where Holy Power was available.

For Holy Paladins, procs were largely ignored except to fill empty GCDs. While this is a core passive for caster Holy Paladins, history seems to be repeating itself for Holy Paladins as they largely ignore these procs. The core issue here is that the benefits of casting and even under are generally outmatched by or as these are both cheaper Holy Power generators. In the case of , it helps get off cooldown via . Unless you spend and on a target, which severely reduces its throughput due to not beacon transferring, then you're just not generating Holy Power.

Light of Dawn moves from a rotational cooldown to a free Holy Power spender limited only by your Holy Power generation. Still has all the positional requirements of BFA.

While not a huge change, you'll no longer be able to quickly reposition your should the positioning of the encounter change.

Infusion of Light and Holy PowerTalent ChangesShadowlands Talent Calculator

REMOVED: Aura of Mercy, Aura of Sacrifice, and . was reworked and made baseline.
Aura system was made baseline with new auras. Existing aura talents were replaced. See Aura Revamp above.

Reworked to work off Holy Power instead of . For Holy Paladins that were rarely using this is an overall buff to the talent. However, in PvP it can actually be more difficult to generate the Holy Power necessary to see a similar cooldown reduction.

Changes meant to bring them inline with the new standard .

removed since it no longer has a cooldown as a Holy Power spender.

Functional rework for Holy Power. No longer a must pick for builds as it no longer works with .

Functionally the same as the Azerite Trait . Currently tuned in the area of 3x Mythic traits worth of the live trait, it won't be contributing as much healing as BFA simply due to losing a lot of the support systems that propped it up. However, it is supplemented by the Holy Power spenders so the playstyle is still quite viable.

Functional change to focus more on Holy Power generation. Very potent but doubled cooldown. Choice on talent tier will be short duration consistent buff, strong cooldown, or sustained albeit more random throughput. Won't be able to always combine with .

Overall other talents will do more healing, but the strength of this one is how the healing is delivered when your tank likely needs it most.

With a third uptime, this could be a pretty good short duration buff depending on the damage patterns of a fight.

Functional change to make healing Holy Power spender agnostic. Ideally and will be added to make it truly Holy Power spender agnostic.

Covenant Abilities

Kyrian:
& (Potency Conduit) - 5 s for the price of one. That's some good mana efficiency and a lot of Holy Power. Combined with and you'll also get a lot of extra healing out of it as well. The conduit takes that efficiency even further starting at base 30% scaling up to 58% at max rank. At a 1 minute cooldown there's not a lot of downsides to this one. Versatile based on your target allowing you to do some pretty serious AoE damage if you're targeting enemies.

- The steward offers some quality of life options like free talent changes or a vendor to sell things, but it essentially boils down to , a glorified healthstone for all intents and purposes. The healing will be nice and contribute albeit minimally to throughput, and the personal curse and bleed dispel for Holy Paladins could come in handy as you can't normally dispel those; when combined with Kleia's soulbind you might even find a few opportunities to avoid entire mechanics though with you already kind of have one of these abilities. Might not be the strongest all the time, but solid ability regardless.

Venthyr:
& (Potency Conduit) - Essentially a large single target that deals both damage and healing and allows you to use regardless of the enemies health. Scales with haste to increase tick rate. Although maybe a bit underpowered, the problems with this covenant ability are largely related to the cooldown, the lack of mobility, and the way the healing is delivered. At a lengthy 4 minutes, the cooldown is just unwieldy. Greater access to a cooldown for a healer will always be better than a bigger one on a longer timer. Perhaps baseline reducing the cooldown or Holy Power consumption reducing the CD would go a long way to adjusting the cooldown. Because you can't move the during its 30s duration, if the encounter moves across the room you're absolutely screwed. While it's more rare in raid, in Mythic+ it's almost a certainty that you won't be standing in a single spot for too long. Perhaps reactivating the ability to reposition could solve this dilemma similar to Restoration Shaman's . Damage in PvE typically comes in waves of burst and it's rare when you need sustained single target healing. If the healing was more upfront, it might be more viable. Finally, the ability usage is a weird benefit. Good when you don't have up with this spell, but as it's a large amount of healing you'll likely want to have to buff the healing and you'll have available in that situation already. In its current state it's okay but there are better options currently and the potency conduit doesn't seem to scale as fast at 10% to 25% increase at min and max rank respectively.

- Quite possibly the star of the covenant signature abilities, it's hard to say no to a 35yd teleport with a minute cooldown even if it has a 1.5s cast time. This type of movement is almost universally valuable and it's hard to think of an occasion where it'd be useless. Full Venthyr dungeon groups can plan skips around this ability. As a fairly immobile Holy Paladin that needs to get back into melee as soon as possible, I will never say no to more mobility.

Necrolord:
& (Potency Conduit) - A more rotational fairly straightforward covenant ability. Essentially every 30s a and combo costs only 4 Holy Power instead of 6. The additional can proc and . From a throughput perspective this one is pretty okay and has a lot of synergy with legendary. There's some frustration if you can't take full advantage of the either because you don't currently need AoE healing or you're not properly positioned. The other issue is it's just kind of boring. The other covenant abilities just tend to be more exciting with bolder visuals etc. It could definitely help if the upfront damage hammer were instead a giving it more synergy with the spec rather than feeling detached in its current state. The ability does feel a bit better when it turns into a personal heal with potency conduit scaling from 100% to 240% increased damage at max rank.

- This extra self survivability will be nice and as an absorb will contribute minimally to overall throughput, but where this one loses me is the 4s channel. Adding a long channel to our toolkit is not exactly something we want. Fortunately soulbinds allow this to be channeled on the move via or even avoid CC via though with you already kind of have one of those abilities. Could be an excellent tool for surviving burst damage especially in high Mythic+, but it's a bit of a harder sell against the other movement oriented covenant signature abilities.

Night Fae:
& (Potency Conduit) via - A rotating cast of single target buffs for you or an ally. For a Holy Paladin this offers a fair amount of utility but also can be quite the personal throughput increase. You're likely to put and on DPS players when you can cuz they'll likely make better use of them. The majority of your personal throughput will be in and . For , you'll bless either your tank, yourself, or a fellow healer. While 10% healing might not seem like much it can amount to a lot. The larger benefit can be the tank, especially tanks that heal themselves like Blood Death Knights. Other healers gain value from healing that tank as well. Strong buff for sure and for 30s too. For , the cooldown reduction should not be underestimated. While this essentially amounts to an extra 15s of cooldown reduction which might not seem like a lot, this does include all cooldowns; , , , and even itself all count all at once. That's a fair amount of cooldown reduction when you count multiple abilities. Tons of flexibility and decision making. Downside of this one is the potency conduit doesn't do a lot for Holy Paladins in regards to healing throughput as it now applies to instead of the earlier version that modified . With the most recent Beta build the cooldown of these blessings has moved from 30s to 45s causing this covenant to take quite a hit.

- With the recent buffs to including the instant blink on activation and movement speed increase this one has definitely shot to the forefront of signature abilities. While the Sylvari Mantle soulbind has been removed, this still improves mobility a lot. You likely won't be coming up with skips for such a limited 15 yard blink, but you get 3-4 in the 12s duration so you may have some opportunities to blink over some particularly nasty mechanics. Comes with a cosmetic collecting minigame which is fantastic.

KyrianNight FaeNight FaeKyrianLackluster GCDs

& - This combination of cooldowns plagued Holy Paladins throughout BFA especially towards the end of the expansion as the cooldown of each got shorter and shorter thanks to . Because you frequently lined these up, having 2 GCDs before you actually started to heal did not feel good and goes against the immediacy healers have when popping cooldowns. While the cooldowns are less likely to line up as often in Shadowlands thanks to the changes done to , it would certainly go a long way in for add upfront effects to at least . Instantly gaining Holy Power would alleviate a lot of those issues.

LegendariesGeneral Paladin Legendaries

- A toned down version of the Anima Power in Torghast. While the damage reduction can be good the primary buff is granted when maxing out your Holy Power which isn't too difficult. The problem arises when needing to potentially delay a Holy Power spender to get the buff leading to some awkward decision making.

- Interesting way to get a fair amount of extra Holy Power by turning your spells into throughput abilities as well as offering some additional upfront power to . When you don't need those tools this is a decent way to gain some on-demand Holy Power albeit on fairly long cooldown abilities. To maximize this legendary you'll want to keep these spells on cooldown as often as possible specifically when fight lengths allow for an additional use. In these situations you'll be going into a fight down a lot of your extra utility which might not be the best situation to be in.

- A more sustained Holy Power generator that works for both caster Holy Paladin and and nice if you're already using on cooldown for . The downside for this is purely the RNG related. It doesn't work off of a deck system, so often times procs feel like feast or famine.

- Super niche legendary that helps get your utility back up faster for more frequent uses especially if your raid is low on other Paladins.

Holy Paladin Legendaries

- The premiere caster Holy Paladin legendary while almost useless for melee Holy Paladins due to their lack of hard casting. The wording on this can be a bit a confusing, so let me clarify. When you proc , you gain 2 charges of the buff. Fairly versatile in terms of either reducing mana usage for or increasing throughput for . Would almost certainly need to be retuned if consuming granted Holy Power, but would be a very strong interaction to further increase Holy Power generation for caster Holy Paladin.

A legendary that increases throughput via , a spell that hasn't really had a clear spot in the Holy Paladin toolkit for awhile due to its many limitations and overall low throughput. This one does make it significantly better and has a lot of synergy with the Necrolord Paladin covenant ability that allows for more casts of in addition to the conduit which rewards more frequent rotational use of . Overall could be a strong pick depending on final tuning.

- Removes some of the positioning restrictions on and offers a nice healing taken increase. Not super creative or exciting, but overall not bad. Has some synergy with Necrolord Paladin covenant ability .

Extremely strong legendary prior to the 3 target cap, especially for Holy Paladins. This legendary seems to be remenisint of an older Holy Paladin ability however tuning will determine if this legendary is potent. In many scenarios you may end up overwriting your barriers wasting a lot of this legendaries effect.

Conduits

(Potency Conduit) increases the healing of your next 3 s by 40.0%. Ranks: 40.0%-96.0%
Turns a traditionally damage reduction cooldown into a gain of healing throughput. If the incoming damage is high enough that you're wanting to use then it's likely that the beefier s will be helpful topping your group off after. At max rank it's almost equivalent to 3 extra free s. Pretty solid for AoE healing however due to the 3min cooldown it may not be as impactful as other legendaries..

(Potency Conduit)15%Ranks:

Currently it is unclear how this conduit is *supposed* to work. If it acts as the tooltip suggest and adds an extra 15% chance to crit, it is a solid conduit for both melee and caster Holy Paladin. Melee Holy Paladin has an increased cast time of thanks to the cooldown reduction provided by so will gain a fair amount of extra throughput. Fantastic for caster Holy Paladin in terms of gaining extra procs of and will be key especially when maximizing the benefits of the legendary. However it is currently providing a lot less critical strike chance than the tooltip suggests. This is hopefully just a bug

(Potency Conduit)5.0%Ranks:

For melee Holy Paladins, this one just doesn't have a lot of value. Even in a scenario where consuming procs is a core part of their rotation, the likely scenario is they'll mostly be consumed with . For caster Holy Paladin this offers a small AoE component and extra throughput and efficiency to one of their most cast spells. At max rank you're nearly doubling the efficiency and throughput of this spell. Not bad for a conduit. But it all relies on you actually casting , which currently doesn't seem to be in the cards.

(Potency Conduit)5%Ranks:

Because of the infrequency with which Holy Paladins of all types cast , this almost has to be playstyle-defining in order to make it worth the soulbind pathing and conduit slot. needs to a major part of your casts and healing breakdown to warrant it; dropping stacks and having to rebuild them will be crushing. That being said could be a very valuable asset in the /Necrolord build.

Infusion of Light and Holy Power

doesn't represent a meaningful choice

and are ignored in the melee playstyle.

Casting and regularly as a caster runs you oom quickly.

You don't have an option to generate mana, or play conservatively outside of not pressing any buttons.

The Caster build struggles to generate Holy Power.

How would this change impact the Melee Playstyle?What are the benefits of the Caster play style?You simply do not have access to enough Holy Power.

doesn't represent a meaningful choice - Now, with this change creates a meaningful choice, due to the increased efficiency of , the Melee play style is forced to compromise in s or s depending on the state of their current haste values and cooldowns. With the caster build, you may need to increase the pace of your rotation else you will be wasting precious charges so you may to do so.

and are ignored in the melee playstyle - Due to the high throughput of s generating a holy power now, this build will naturally want to take advantage of those charges, forcing it to worry about mana more. Some of the mana cost of may need to be clawed back in this scenario, but that is healthier for the class overall due to problem #4 in this list. As mentioned above ideally this build would be casting s as well but has a much faster-paced rotation, as such may not have the time to do so making it a constant choice.

Casting and regularly as a caster runs you oom quickly. - This problem still persists at some level. However, it is alleviated as Holy Power spenders by nature of costing Holy Power do not cost mana, as a result, the mana efficiency of the "Caster" playstyle goes up significantly.

You don't have an option to generate mana, or play conservatively outside of not pressing any buttons - If had some of its mana cost clawed back both builds could opt to let go to waste, in order to be a bit more efficient.

The Caster build struggles to generate Holy Power - The caster build has a respectable amount of Holy Power generation as , and is at the core of this build far more than the Melee Healer playstyle.

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Kommentar von minka25I hope SO MUCH Glimmer isnt a must have talent... i really dont like the playstyle.Kommentar von ServasusAs someone who mained Mistweaver in MoP, who also quit MW when Eminence and Chi were both removed, I am really annoyed that Blizzard gave Holy Paladins back Holy Power but refuses to give MW back Chi. The entire reason they took out chi from MW was because they felt it made the skill floor too high for the spec, but yet here we are, and apparently having a secondary resource to mana in addition to mana is okay for Paladins but not okay for Monks.

Like, I'm happy for you guys. But this is bull$%^&. Paladin gets all the love and attention and Monk gets ignored and cast aside expansion after expansion.Kommentar von SoftcatchGood point about the infusion of light, I think it would be interesting that instead of bestow faith or lights hammer on that row, they could have a talent that gave infusion of light the ability to give holy power. Because the worry would be if it was just baseline then melee build could take advantage of it and still very powerful in comparison. By making it a talent it would put people to either go range or melee build and it would actively change your play style with what you choose.Kommentar von THEBuzzardTurn undead interaction with DKs Lich Borne? Is it a thing? If not it should be.Kommentar von LainiWeizNo mention of Mastery, is it still the "Do X% more healing when in range of your target" thing?Kommentar von SkygrinderI doubt the non-glimmer build will be viable in M+Kommentar von jthm91just give us back the bubble absorb masteryKommentar von LuomoSo glad to hear it's in a decent spot! I have my eye on shock barrier but as you said feels restrictive with the 3 barriers. I don't see many legendaries truly befiting of the glimmer pally so would be nice to see this one get some fine tuning! Also finally nice to want to pick kyrian, stupid steward hahaKommentar von thebdcNo mention of Mastery, is it still the "Do X% more healing when in range of your target" thing?Kommentar von PinkachuAs a Glimmer Holy Paladin, I wasn't a fan of seeing the Beacon of Virtue and Glimmer of Light talents on the same row in the beta. I depend on the combination of both in Mythic plus on live, so now I'll have to choose one or the other. I prefer the melee playstyle as it's fun to compete with others for dps while healing. I found it odd to give Shield of the Righteous to all three specs, however. Rets don't use shields and the last good weapon I had drop on my Holy loot specialization, was a polearm. That kind of makes SotR pointless.Kommentar von ratchet2holy paladin is such a mess right now
it's trying to be 2 different things and it ends up being none of them.Kommentar von Flame6I hope SO MUCH Glimmer isnt a must have talent... i really dont like the playstyle.Kommentar von XeeLiaoPlease Blizzard, add the Eternal Flame Talent from MoP back in the Game replacing Word of GloryKommentar von endolexNo need to make it more complicated than it has to be: Just have Holy Light and Flash of Light *always* generate 1 HP, and remove the silly "generate 1 HP when you heal the beacon" passive. Problem solved for caster types, and now you have a choice whether you want to generate by healing or via Crusader Strike.

As for Glimmer of Light: I don't understand how this playstyle is necessarily supposed to be "melee style" at all. This is all based on Holy Shock, which is a ranged ability. The only reason for this nonsense is Crusader's Might which they should honestly just replace with something that directly reduces the cooldown of Holy Shock. Then you can well combine it with caster healing.

My personal favourite is Avenging Crusader of course, always has been. This is where the melee holy paladin really shines, and I wish we could have a version of this mechanic that can proc or be activated way more often, but with a lesser throughput. Then we would have the choice to be *actual* melee healers first and foremost, Brigitte style basically.Kommentar von KiorelleI'm not feeling good about Shield of the Righteous being in there. I don't want to be forced into being sword-and-board.

...auras feel weak, too. Sure, it's great to have four to choose from, but only one of those is actually any good (Devo), which makes it feel weak if you consistently run in a multi-paladin party (which I do). I'd much prefer the current version of Retribution to this revamped one, or the ability for auras to stack, even with diminishing returns.

Or they could make my day and bring Sanctity Aura back.

Edit now that I finished it all: I'm a little upset by the level 25 talent row having three choices I'd like to have, and I'm concerned about the mana cost for CS, but other than that it feels all right, I guess. I've never really been in either the Glimmer or the non-Glimmer playstyle, being more oldschool Shock + LoD in melee (which I guess makes me more Glimmer than not, but I remember caster healadin from BC, and it blew. If you make me stand back and cast Flash or HS again, I'ma quit <.< ).

CS seems -way- too expensive. With that in mind, I'm all for the author's suggestion regarding Infusion of Light changes to reduce that mana cost somewhat. It's absurd.Kommentar von gen4ikNo mention of Mastery, is it still the "Do X% more healing when in range of your target" thing?Kommentar von Matthewb969I find part of the analysis in this post to be flawed, because it doesn't seem to consider all factors, in particular in the assumptions made that result in the assessment that the two builds' play styles will be drastically different, in particular assuming "Caster" paladin won't be within melee range.

Assumption that "Caster" paladins won't crusader strike: Crusader strike is castable whilst moving, the contribution to healing in the form of holy power generated is more mana efficient than flash heal (unless consuming infusion of light), and that contribution can be stored to use later with an instant cast, likely reducing overhealing and being more mana efficient in that way. Plus it deals damage.

Assumption that "Melee" Paladin won't consume infusion procs: (Unless I have missed something drastic with the spell scalings) Holy light and Flash of light are significantly more HPS than crusader strikes into Word of Glory, even before infusion on Holy Light.

Obviously both playstyles would cast Holy Shock on cooldown. I didn't calculate the impact of Crusader might, but I assume that on AoE healing at some breakpoint of targets Crusdader strike will be better HPS due to Glimmer / Light of Dawn, but I am fairly certain that number is above 1 (if not higher), and so if an individual urgently needs healing and Holy shock is on CD you are going to have a decision to make.

I think subject to further tuning of the relative spell coefficients, Holy paladin is looking to be an interesting spec to play in Shadowlands, with nuanced decisions to make.Kommentar von ErousWhat a trash pile. Having 1 ability to use in melee doesn't make us a melee healer. In cata for example we had area based radiance that helped put us in that melee category. In early bfa, we had avenging crusader that really moved us into a melee support class. This weird MoP+bfa glimmer hybrid healing just seems sloppy and forced. I hope the devs understand that just because a spec is popular doesn't make it compelling and inviting.

I loathe glimmer of light and saw opportunity in getting back to word of glory use like in MOP except this time there's no downranking of spells. I hate the fact were melee because of 1 ability. If this article is correct, light of dawn becomes crap also making us a poor melee alternative for raids.

Ideally, I wanted to see us move to traditional ranged healing as a tank healing powerhouse with saved by the light and beacon of faith. Or, if melee is really where we belong, provide more melee support and less lackluster crusader strike generator garbage.Kommentar von kutanaNo need to make it more complicated than it has to be: Just have Holy Light and Flash of Light *always* generate 1 HP, and remove the silly "generate 1 HP when you heal the beacon" passive. Problem solved for caster types, and now you have a choice whether you want to generate by healing or via Crusader Strike.

As for Glimmer of Light: I don't understand how this playstyle is necessarily supposed to be "melee style" at all. This is all based on Holy Shock, which is a ranged ability. The only reason for this nonsense is Crusader's Might which they should honestly just replace with something that directly reduces the cooldown of Holy Shock. Then you can well combine it with caster healing.

My personal favourite is Avenging Crusader of course, always has been. This is where the melee holy paladin really shines, and I wish we could have a version of this mechanic that can proc or be activated way more often, but with a lesser throughput. Then we would have the choice to be *actual* melee healers first and foremost, Brigitte style basically.Meisterschaft: LichtbringerKommentar von ptioineWell This article wasn't really helpful in the sense it only focus in glimmer build ....
Second quite disappointed that Judgement doesn't give us 1Holy Power like it used to be

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