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Die Rang 14 Waffen aus der Naxx-Ära und überarbeitete Rang 10 PvP-Sets sind in Phase 2 von Classic erhältlich

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Kommentar von Elyrellessa It's kind of amazing that a private server coming out is emulating Classic better than Blizzard bothered to. lol. Kommentar von Mechsy Could you elaborate? maybe provide facts? Kommentar von AndersonKT24 The source is literally the article. T3 quality PvP gear being available before T2 gets released is stupid. Kommentar von perculia Could you elaborate? maybe provide facts?\r
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We've provided screenshots of the vendors in-game, who are selling the 1.11 weapons in addition to the earlier weapons. Kommentar von Archimtiros It's kind of amazing that a private server coming out is emulating Classic better than Blizzard bothered to. lol.

I think you mean emulating Vanilla, but the point of these changes is that Classic is not Vanilla, and a lot of these changes are for the betterment of the game. For example, there's no reason these Rank 14 weapons should be missing when all the other Rank 14 weapons were already in the game - it was simple oversight on Blizzard's part, which is why it was corrected in 1.11. Why should Classic emulate that fault and wait until Phase 6 for caster weapons?

The PvP sets being stronger is certainly contentious, but they do take effort to obtain - the flipside is that the non-updated sets are so mediocre that there's not a whole lot of reason to even try to get them, much less actually use them, when raid gear exists. In this regard, someone always loses; either PvP sets are better than Raid gear or Raid gear is better than PvP sets; there's always an absolute.

The source is literally the article. T3 quality PvP gear being available before T2 gets released is stupid.

Realistically, most classes only prioritize parts of the set for the 2p bonus, rather than the whole thing, so it isn't as though the sets completely devalue raid gear. Many players won't even get that rank for quite some time, if at all, due to not prioritizing PvP. Kommentar von Paraplim Do you need the rank to buy them, or to equip them? Aka you buy a weapon when you have x rank, next week your rank drops and you can't equip it anymore? Kommentar von ByteMarc Do you need the rank to buy them, or to equip them? Aka you buy a weapon when you have x rank, next week your rank drops and you can't equip it anymore?\r
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No, just need the rank to buy. Kommentar von SeekerWi They're not T3 quality - Epic PVP gears are comparable to tier 2.5. For all the huge grind honor system is, phase 6 naxx gear still is stronger. Some pieces, like shadow priest, are an exception, with their tier gear being focused on healing. Even for them tier 2.5 pieces offer slightly better stats - although the set bonuses(in my opinion) still put the PVP gear on top.

Of course, Phase 6 is a long time away, and even with that released it won't be easy to obtain the coveted BiS pieces from Naxx.

When I've tried to make the "Phase 6 PVE BiS" there wasn't a single piece on my mage from PVP. "Phase 6 PVP BiS" featured gloves, head and shoulders from the Epic PVP set for the 2 and 3-set bonus(while the items themselves are slightly worse, the set bonuses put them ahead), and 6 pieces of frostfire gear for awesome stats and 6-set bonus. Think about it - a Hardcore PVPer will eventually give up his Grand Marshal weapons and 3 out of 6 gear pieces - outclassed by PVE gears. Which is quite sad as it is? And people still complain about PVP gear being too strong? Kommentar von Faradize They're not T3 quality - Epic PVP gears are comparable to tier 2.5.\r
it still outweights everything until Naxx :\/ Kommentar von Rispetto The source is literally the article. T3 quality PvP gear being available before T2 gets released is stupid.\r
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So what? "If I can't have it, nobody can"\r
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I don't expect to get R14 ever, let alone before Naxx. But I'm not going to advocate the total removal of the items just because of that.\r
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Get over it. Kommentar von Kanariya Folks need to stop acting like even 3% of the playerbase will ever get epic pvp gear.\r
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And in this era, ranking PvP takes far longer than anything else. Even if Naxxramas were out now, it would be easier to clear 12\/15 bosses than it would be to get to Rank 12. Kommentar von magicottermew They're not T3 quality - Epic PVP gears are comparable to tier 2.5.
it still outweights everything until Naxx :\/
It gets replaced by AQ40 gear, not Naxx gear.

That means it's T2 quality. That's a fair amount of power for what requires arguably the most effort in the entire game, limited to a small number of people with the utmost dedication. Kommentar von Archimtiros They're not T3 quality - Epic PVP gears are comparable to tier 2.5.
it still outweights everything until Naxx :\/

No it doesn't. Some MC gear is better than the blue sets, a good bit of BWL gear is better, and AQ+ gear is almost unilaterally better. There are a few oddly itemized pieces (Warrior shoulders, which are one of the few good sources of +crit in that slot) which stand out, but most classes only prioritize the 2p bonus.

The PvP sets also take a lot more individual time commitment to unlock. Rank 14 is almost a joke to raiders who can get at least comparable items out of raid without living and breathing 18 hour days of PvP for months on end. Kommentar von Elyrellessa The problem I have is that it's not true to the actual original game. Kommentar von Kramsey95 The problem I have is that it's not true to the actual original game.\r
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Classic is not meant to be an exact copy of vanilla but a hopefully better version where things blizzard overlooked or thought better at the time ended up not being as good so classic has the opportunity to make a better experience and make more sense with how things come in to the game. Remembering between vanilla and playing classic now I do enjoy the minor changes they are making to try to provide a better advancement in the game. The core of the game is still the same and thats what really matters. Kommentar von Rollrick NO CHANGES? Kommentar von Cr0wl0ck Could you elaborate? maybe provide facts?\r
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We've provided screenshots of the vendors in-game, who are selling the 1.11 weapons in addition to the earlier weapons.\r
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I even heard you removed the spell pen trinkets & rings from battleground factions so it honestly confuses me to see P4-P5 content in MC and likewise with ranking....\r
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why this backwards balance ? wouldnt it be more natural to have kept the 1.4 patch rank version and added the spell pen blue trinkets & epic av ring instead ? Kommentar von Raduki I don't understand how people are confused about the items earned from PvP being the 1.11 versions. There was a blue post some time ago stating exactly this:\r
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"The items you earn from the PvP Rank Rewards will be the versions from patch 1.12"\r
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Why Wowhead assumed that the phase 2 items would be the items that were implemented in patch 1.4 I don't understand when they themselves linked the blue post as well here: https:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/news=291079\/classic-pvp-content-plan-explained Kommentar von Kjarlot We've known about this since April. The fact that this came as a shock to you guys is beyond me. Kommentar von Archimtiros Could you elaborate? maybe provide facts?\r
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We've provided screenshots of the vendors in-game, who are selling the 1.11 weapons in addition to the earlier weapons.\r
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I even heard you removed the spell pen trinkets & rings from battleground factions so it honestly confuses me to see P4-P5 content in MC and likewise with ranking....\r
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why this backwards balance ? wouldnt it be more natural to have kept the 1.4 patch rank version and added the spell pen blue trinkets & epic av ring instead ?\r
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What do you mean "you"? Wowhead isn't Blizzard.

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