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Blizzard hat die Klassenänderungen für Patch 8.3 Visionen von N'Zoth aktualisiert - Nerf für Disziplinspriester

geposted 2019.10.16 um 19:55 von Squishei

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Kommentar von TruthNZ Priest spells and abilities only?\r
I'm guess they mean to exclude trinket, azerite and essence effects. Kommentar von Spanky2k Why can\u2019t they balance for m+? Nerf resto druids and buff all other healers for dungeons. Yet another nerf for disc which might be needed in raids but only makes them fall further behind in m+. Kommentar von Rainlover what about resto druids nerf? rogues nerfs? prot warrior nerfs? Kommentar von Armskul I'm fine with these nerfs, afterall, each class has it's objective, to have one play both the damage dealer and the healer with no consequences seems a tad too strong for a class, let's face it, alot of people would probably do M+ with meta classes for either how OP they are or how broken they can get.\r
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Now I don't speak for any experienced Priest players, but you do need to admit, true or not, that Disc priests were abit too OP.. And I possibly should know, I played a Shadow Priest from 20 to 120.. Had people telling me to change to Disc because of how powerful they were and how "easier" it was to fly through content.\r
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Now, if only they'd nerfed Paladins, Rogues and Hunter pets, I wonder what kind of maelstrom would occure. Kommentar von Armskul what about resto druids nerf? rogues nerfs? prot warrior nerfs?\r
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Excuse me? Prot Warrior Nerfs? First time I hear Prot Warriors needing a nerf. Kommentar von MidnightFire12 These beginning class nerfs are in direct effect of the following raid. None of these changes are because of mythic + at the moment. You need to be a bit more patient I think. Kommentar von sinangelus Now, if only they'd nerfed Paladins, Rogues and Hunter pets, I wonder what kind of maelstrom would occure. Nerf paladins? They're already nerfing holy and the other 2 specs are basically on the "don't invite" list for either raids or m+. Kommentar von Frender8462 what about resto druids nerf? rogues nerfs? prot warrior nerfs?

What kind of monster asks for a healer\/tank nerf? Kommentar von lovelywaz \r
Now, if only they'd nerfed Paladins, Rogues and Hunter pets, I wonder what kind of maelstrom would occure.\r
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What did Hunter Pets ever do to you? They actually lost brez and party buffs. The only thing they still have is dispell and they have to be in melee range and targetting the mob. Lets not even talk about all the mess that is Pet UI. Kommentar von orionaegis7 what about resto druids nerf? rogues nerfs? prot warrior nerfs?\r
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What kind of monster asks for a healer\/tank nerf?\r
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a lesser tank or healer Kommentar von Arestera Boo All the Azerite trait buffs! Buff real abilities not lame gear ones. Kommentar von Melilithia Kinda disappointed in the Discipline nerfs. I love being able to stay as Disc to DPS in casual content. Kommentar von bloctoad Fantastic, another nerf to laserchicken. I guess druids are only allowed to be heals. Kommentar von eggypissmilk DISCS DABBED ON Kommentar von MrXtrm Why can\u2019t they balance for m+? Nerf resto druids and buff all other healers for dungeons. Yet another nerf for disc which might be needed in raids but only makes them fall further behind in m+.\r
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At this point, I fully expect the next expansion to have three different spell balancing, one for PvP, one for dungeons, and one for raiding. Kommentar von MrXtrm what about resto druids nerf? rogues nerfs? prot warrior nerfs?\r
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What kind of monster asks for a healer\/tank nerf?\r
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Given how much Blood DK was hit at the beginning of the expansion because we were too prevelant in M+, the fact that Protection isn't being hit for the same reason screams hypocrisy. Kommentar von Lillyser Are the Shadow Priest changes seriously going to stay like that? What happened to class balance? This is not balanced at all, that is a huge nerf. They we'rent top all the time this raid, and certainly struggle in mythic plus, and now get this huge nerf? What, because people complain? Look at your own classes people, stop trying to change others. Blizzard, I know balancing the classes is difficult, but I urge you to reconsider. Shadow priests didn't need this big of a nerf, I have been on the PTR to test it so I know what I'm talking about. This need more tuning. So please find some time to fix it.\r
Sincerely, we don't need to be nerfed to the ground. Kommentar von Ahriman9210 Auspicious Spirits damage bonus reduced to 25% (was 50%).\r
alright, its time to delete my Spriest.\r
prot warrior and havoc next ? Kommentar von mozpioz Auspicious Spirits damage bonus reduced to 25% (was 50%).
alright, its time to delete my Spriest.
prot warrior and havoc next ?

AS wasnt even taken on single target anyways. Shadow crash is better. You can't reasonably deny that shadow multitarget is completely broken atm. realistically, taking into account the ilvl bump from the new raid, the chorus nerf will be unnoticed (you will have more haste\/crit baseline which translates into more VF stacks, and chorus traits will give more crit per stack due to higher ilvl pieces) and the damage nerf to pain and vt is hardly going to make a difference. i don't understand why there's so much hyperbole on the basis of a (realistically) 2-4% nerf on ST and a nerf that will bring shadow in line with other dot classes on multi-target. Kommentar von Xelnia Auspicious Spirits damage bonus reduced to 25% (was 50%).\r
alright, its time to delete my Spriest.\r
prot warrior and havoc next ?\r
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AS wasnt even taken on single target anyways. Shadow crash is better. You can't reasonably deny that shadow multitarget is completely broken atm. realistically, taking into account the ilvl bump from the new raid, the chorus nerf will be unnoticed (you will have more haste\/crit baseline which translates into more VF stacks, and chorus traits will give more crit per stack due to higher ilvl pieces) and the damage nerf to pain and vt is hardly going to make a difference. i don't understand why there's so much hyperbole on the basis of a (realistically) 2-4% nerf on ST and a nerf that will bring shadow in line with other dot classes on multi-target.\r
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A current 445 Azerite piece gives 37 Crit per CoI stack.\r
A 475 Azerite piece gives 30 Crit per CoI stack.\r
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What do you mean, "more crit per stack"?\r
Sure, we'll get higher base values, but that won't make up for a realistic amount of 600-1000 crit that we're losing effectively. (21*30-55 depending on a very good void form).\r
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VT is currently our strongest DoT, and even in Single Target encounters it seems to hover around 8% of our damage. Losing 8% does still hurt it a bit.\r
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We already came to the conclusion that our actual DPS nerf is gonna be at around 9-10% Single Target, higher in Multitarget.\r
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I don't think you're seeing this the way it actually is.

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