"The Wrath Gate, the Blight and the Forsaken were all under Sylvanas' orders as well. Sylvanas' plans have escalated right now. "Thanks blizz for making the horde and the alliance complete clowns for trusting sylvanas, varian should have killed them all in undercity, or that what your retcon is telling us.at this point sylvanas probably planned that sargeras start a crusade.this is @#$%ing stupid, i will not accept this.all of this to make her a supposed "MiLiTARY GeniUs"?
I look forward to seeing what they do!
Please.. Talk about another character..She's not the soul of warcraft..
I don't get how this whole Wrathgate thing is a surprise to people. The Lich King himself literally says it's Sylvanas in the cinematic.
I hate they're still in denial about their own character.I hate how they keep trying to be like "oh, y'know, she's complex."No she's not. She's afraid of dying, and she wants to conquer the world and remake it under the banner of her loyal Forsaken. And only her loyal Forsaken. none of the other so-called death factions like her because she's insane."Oh it's so nice her sister apologized to her for betraying her trust!" You guys forgot she plotted to kill her sister and then raise her. "Oh but she's done so much for the Horde" She tried to enslave a potential ally and risked alienating the Valajar from the Horde. She killed Forsaken citizens, including loyal ones who did not try to run away from her. Because they had hope. She blew up a city of only civilians because of hope, got the Horde involved into a war that wouldn't have happened on the premise that someday they would have war again, blew up the Undercity after killing Horde soldiers with Blight, leaving Silvermoon effectively exposed and alone, and eventually brought war to Zandalar resulting in the death of their king."Oh, but she's broken and betrayed and tragic" Does not make her any less of a villain, but all her character is now is scheming for herself and herself alone. And with this retcon(?) she's got even less 'maybe she'll be redeemed' points."Oh, but the old gods fear her." Nope. !. The old gods have undead cultists. 2. the void can be used to perform necromancy, like the Shadowmoon clan does. 3. The tidesages have risen undead in their ranks. 4. All of Nazmir. 5.The void feeds on Alleria's negative emotions, and so the only possible shred of evidence people have for this comes from one line in the comic, which only happens after she sees Sylvanas in her banshee form."Oh, but I don't like the traitor Saurfang" Literally didn't betray anyone. A Good War shows that while conflicted over killing Malfurion, the choice is taken from him by Elune / Tyrande, and he's frozen in place. In Lordaeron, as opposed to suicide by Alliance he decides to keep fighting to defend the Horde despite what happened, because the Horde's worth protecting. Then Sylvanas kills their own people and says "oh, what, you don't like the Horde, I'm protecting it" literally minutes after she just wiped out the Horde's front lines. So he stays behind and fights the Alliance, protecting the throne room from their advance. When captured, he guides us to the Zandalari prisoners and wishes us victory. Meanwhile, in Battle for Lordaeron, A Good War, and in Before the Storm, Sylvanas muses on killing him."Oh, but I want to be the villain." Villains don't have a long shelf life in WoW if you haven't noticed. Also, it doesn't make sense that you who defended the planet time, and time, and time again, would want to side suddenly and unquestioningly with the plot of "start a war, wipe out all life, and then raise it" "Oh, but now we have a choice to side with her, yay!" We never got a choice to not be there as she burns Teldrassil to ashes. We never got a choice to disagree with her "let's kill Malfurion despite being a druid, or a loyal follower of Illidan, or someone who remembers allying with Malfurion in Firelands and Val'sharah"We rebelled against Garrosh for far less, remember? Sylvanas is equally as racist, she just hides it far better because that is a personality trait of hers. If everything you've seen so far isn't screaming at you that Sylvanas dies this expansion, then I feel genuinely sorry for you. My hope for a compromise is that when she dies, she's returned to life somehow, maybe through the Light or whatever, so that way her spirit finds its way to the actual afterlife and not the hell she's otherwise destined to return to. I think that would be the most fitting ending for her.
What? Yet another team Ion is talking out their rear and gets blasted for it? Say it aint so. They need to come out and clear up the statement, not spew hot air and make everyone deal with it. Nothing he said is official lore if he just makes it up on the spot.
I do not know, I think they just try to confuse us with their statements. But after seeing what they did with Illidan in Legion, then anything can happen.I mean, Illidan died as a villain in TBC and years later ended up as an "antihero"
Yes it was under Sylvanas's orders to use the plague the wrathgate. But this doesn't prove she wanted use it while Horde allies (and Alliance too I guess) were in the crossfire.
See the whole "quests after you pick" rub me the wrong way, Id prefer to know what the questline is, because what if siding with Sly gives you an awesome mount and siding with saurfang gives you... a puppy?yea you can do it on alts, but still id like to know before hand