What if my Havoc trinket is 1000, but I'm still fishing for Havoc relics?Will the tank one never drop for as long as I'm in Havoc loot spec?I mean, personally I'm cool with that, but I am curious if that's what this means.
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Do normal argus first for tank trinket, then heroic for havoc relics.
Well to be fair, the Pantheon trinket reward system really is pretty horrible. Making an upgradeable trinket with a guaranteed drop on the upgrade, but for which the trinket is a random chance feels very bad. You are basically teasing people for not having gotten their trinket yet. And frankly, taking 3 months to fix the off-spec rewards being random is just sad.But the icing on the cake is the random legendary trinket that most people apparently won't see until it just doesn't matter anymore (if ever). I don't know who came up with the idea to have the last boss in the expansion drop a rare legendary item AND make it provide such a small power increase due to over-inflated gear, but it's terrible. And to double down on the bad, it is a trinket, which means it has zero value outside of a temporary small power gain in one single raid instance.I'll take the Mists or Warlords legendary system over this burning Legion legendary dumpster fire any day.
These Pantheon trinket drops have been a debacle since Day 1. At least on Draenor, arguably a huge debacle in so many ways, we could BUY our off spec legendary rings after completing the quest line.Blizzard seems to take even the slightest critique against their nonstop RNG system in Legion as nothing short of heresy.
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So, they fixed a bug? Well hot damn. WoW! There's like a 40 page thread addressing how flawed the trinkets being on personal loot are(and not being able to bonus roll them after 15 weeks) and their grand announcement is "Hey, umm, trinkets were dropping randomly regardless of spec so we fixed that". gg blizz gg
Hot take: I think the trinket system work fine, even if the legendary version was so rare as to be silly.
"I'd be eager to hear your suggestions on how it could be better. I mean, the existing one has functioned pretty well for the past 13 years for WoW specifically and for the past 20 years across an entire genre of games (other genres too, but you get my point)." I don't think the past 13 years they had a loot system as bad as legion did with such examples as: What gear relinquished can drop (tier, arcano and other stuff aswell), then the legendary system (right now it's not as bad because you can get pretty much 2-3 legendaries a week, but in the begining of the expansion up until the very end when they added legendaries for wakening essences and made them drop more often it was really bad), then there is the titanforging which has to be the literal worst thing ever to happen to this game (there's plenty of reasons why this is the worst thing to ever happen to this game so i'm not even going to get into it). I just don't understand after everyone complaining so much about legendaries, titanforging and all that stuff, how do they think it's still a good system.
We've been killing Argus Normal and Heroic every week since the raid launched and we saw only 1 Amantul's legendary trinket...Yeah, great system...
Random loot is great thing in case of taishalak (sword of agrammar), mounts and other things, which have not impact on your raid progress. Pantheon trinket is the best trinket for almost all specialization, thus if you are not lucky, you won't have big dps or hps. As for me, I was disappointed in this game and considered to quit several times, because all my friends have got this trinket on the first week, while I have looted only after 7th kill. I would not be mad, if only one my friend looted it. But since I was the one among 12 people, who did not get lucky, it was offensive. By the way, I killed argus 7 times on my main, and 10 times on my other characters before I have got the trinket. In result, the draenor system, where your hard work ( competing quests) was rewarded ( I mean you can buy your legendary ring), is the best.
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"I'd be eager to hear your suggestions on how it could be better. I mean, the existing one has functioned pretty well for the past 13 years for WoW specifically and for the past 20 years across an entire genre of games (other genres too, but you get my point)."I mean, so have tier sets and yet you guys are still ditching those next expansion.
It's been months, make it retroactive and it will actually be fixed.