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Kommentar von Thottbot

I have both ToEP and these beads and they can indeed stack (their cooldowns are not shared). 1200/1300 normal 2100 crit flash heals close to 3100/5kcrit greater with both of them combined and assorted other +healing.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you're like me and always forget to use it, replace your flash heal button with this macro:

/script UseInventoryItem(GetInventorySlotInfo("Trinket0Slot"))
/cast Flash Heal(Rank 7)

You'll automatically use it as soon as it's available and you cast a flash heal. Can be a little wasteful, but it's better than forgetting about it for 10 minutes. :P

EDIT: Oh, that's if the trinket is in the top slot. Use "Trinket1Slot" for the bottom trinket slot.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I don't see too many priests using this trinket. It's our own ToEP without having to wait for a drop in MC or wait for the Heart of Hakkar. I pop the trinket then put renew on everyone who is low on health. Everyone gets 350+ hp/tick on their renew.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have it activating w/ power infusion. VERY helpful

Kommentar von Thottbot

At first i didnt see why to take thsi trnket but now i understand, its really good in instances and it has saved my groups ass bunch of itmes .P u would regreath if u didnt take this wonderful trinket, TAKE THE TRINKET! :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

The macro stated above works well except that it wont heal you if you use the Alt- spell to auto select yourself. you keep either healing the selected person or just get the highlighted guantlet and you have to cast it manually

Kommentar von Thottbot

More items should have flavor text

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a shadow priest our healing dosn't get the same kick but using PoH in conjunction with this really makes for a party saver. This trinket is not AS effective with FH or Renew because they are lower heal spells therefor only recieveing a portion of the benifit. Ive seen it add 100-110 to the fash heal and 45-60 to each tick of Renew, but with the Greater Heal and PoH spells it recieves the full benefit. This is the best reward for the chain and if you are having trouble figuring out why you are not a priest.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Actually, it does do all of the healing on renew, it just does it over time instead of with each tick. It adds an extra 36 to each renew tick.

I almost picked the wand on this quest, but then I realized that the wand that drops of the Shade of Eran in ST is better anyway and these beads are going to be very good for a long while.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The blessed prayer beads should be the universal reward that you take from this quest. No other item duplicates their effect exactly, and both of the other rewards (the wand and ring) are obsoleted soon down the road. This always has a specific niche, as I will explain.

First, how does this stack up against comparable trinkets?

Keeping in mind it's only +healing, here are other trinkets that provide a comparable power:

- Zandalarian Hero Charm: 408 healing reduced by 34 a cast (until 0) for 20 seconds. 120 second cooldown.
- Talisman of Ephmeral Power: 175 healing for 15 seconds. 90 second cooldown.
- Talisman of Ascendance: 75 healing increased by 75 a cast (5 max) for 20 seconds. 60 second cooldown.

So we definitely have some pros and cons.

PROS:
- Directly more powerful than the ToEP in a single use application. ToEP only comes out ahead if it is allowed to be used multiple times in a long term use comparison
- This apparently doesn't have cooldown sharing with any of the other trinkets, which means that it can always be comboed with them.
- Accomplished with 5 man content with no major grinds attached.

CONS:
- Long cooldown matching that of the ZHC.
- Not as directly powerful as the peaks of the ZHC or ToA. In particular, it takes 6 castings to get the power down from the ZHC to match this. Assuming a 1.5s cast time or global cooldown, that's 9 seconds of solid casting, leaving only 11 seconds left to finish off.

Now, to throw in a bit of a mix, let's change the subject to long term casting, and throw in a couple more things to compare it by.

First, the briarwood reed, which is 29 healing, and second, the rejuvenating gem which is 66 healing (a major raid treasure, but something interesting to compare to).

This provides 190 healing for 20 seconds.
ToEP provides 175 healing for 15 seconds.
ZHC provides 408/374/340/306/272/238/204/166/132/98/64/30 POTENTIAL healing (will analyze under realistic circumstances) for 20 seconds
ToA provides 75/150/225/300/375/450 POTENTIAL healing for 20 seconds.
Briarwood provides 29 healing indefinitely.
Rejuvenating Gem provides 66 healing indefinitely.

To get an idea of best case scenario for these trinkets (1.5s spells, or instant cast spells with 1.5 global cooldown) assume those are the casting times being chain cast (in the real world this often doesn't work out, but assume an emergency requiring you to shotgun spells).

Over the Bead's lifetime, you can cast the 1.5s spell 13 times. As there is no loss per cast like with other spells, you'll get a +healing factor of 2470.

Over the ToEP's lifetime, you can cast the 1.5s spell 9 times (10 assumes no lag, no delays, which isn't realistic). This is a +healing factor of 1575 (1750 if pristine). As noted before, on a 1:1 usage, the beads are better, this picks up the slack by having a shorter cooldown.

Over the ZHC's lifetime, you can cast the 1.5s spell 13 times. This would allow you exhaust the amount of enhancement charges of the trinket. The bonus +healing factor you would accrue, then, is 2632. Only a little bit better than the beads, in fact, in an extended casting session. It is worth noting, though, if you're only able to get a few spells off, or if you need to use longer casting spells, the ZHC would be exponentially better.

Over the ToA's lifetime, it would be quite easy to hit the maximum quickly, as it requires less casts to hit its peak. Thus, you would get a +healing factor of 1575. In actual fact, it matches the ToEP in a direct comparison. However, the strength of the ToA is its short cooldown. It has half the cooldown of the beads, essentially making it double the effective healing listed here over long periods of time.

Now for the passive trinkets. The beads achieve 2470 +healing over the 20 seconds you get them, assuming spam conditions.

A briarwood reed with its 29 healing would have to be used roughly 85 times to achieve the +healing factor that the beads provide. Assuming 1.5s cast per, it'd take 127.5 seconds to equal out (not realistic really, since nobody can chain cast all but the cheapest spells for 127 seconds). With the 120 second cooldown on the trinket, they are similar in overall power, if not in focus. A briarwood would have to be spread out over a long time of casts, whereas you have to make a conscious choice of when you want to use the beads. Also, beads assume that you're using them back to back, and not waiting for a strategic time (thus wasting cooldown), but reed assumes you'd be chain casting. Overall, either is a viable choice, and it will be your playstyle that dictates which you'd like.

Of course, considering the briarwood reed is such a close comparison to the beads, comparing it to a rejuvenating gem is going to be a little bit pointless. But, as it is, at 66 +healing, it'd only take roughly 37 casts with the gem to equal the +healing of the beads. And of course, like most blues compared to purples, take the purple.

At any rate, keep in mind these are reported to stack with the other spellpower trinkets, so if your playstyle is one that favors the kind of burst healing provided by these devices, this is always going to have a niche in your bags (you'd have to wait 20 seconds to deploy a ZHC/ToA/ToEP dual combo, since they no longer stack).

Kommentar von Thottbot

u should know even shadow wrath wands on ah is the same dmg as woestaff.. go for the trinket cause its the best u could get for very very long

Kommentar von Thottbot

The Macros listed above are outdated. The new macro is much simpler.

/use Blessed Prayer Beads
/cast Flash Heal

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Johannes, the advantage of this is that you get the full bonus on your renew heals. So if you are assigned to healing dps, this would actually increase your renews so much as to be superior to Mindtap Talisman.... I guess it depends, but it is probably good to keep it in your inventory and choose whatever trinket is most appropriate to fight and role

Kommentar von Allakhazam

quite nice

Kommentar von Allakhazam

its both horde AND alliance - this website is wrong -

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=8257/morphaz-blut

Kommentar von Allakhazam

will use this for vael and maybe some other fights but the +11mana/5sec is still king of blue trinkets for a priest. Did some comparisons with how much more you would heal with dm trinket and how much more with this thing. asuming that you spam flash heals constantly.
10min fight=1200mana with dm trinket
5uses of this (2min cooldown)
u will get around +80 healing on your flashheals and can do around 10 if you spam each time so that's +4000 healed.
1200mana gives you 3 flash heals and still some left which is +3000- depending on your gear. since most people will have some +healing to even get involved in such a nerdy discussion and there are few times where you would spam 10 flash heals in a row every 10min the dm thing is still king of blues. Might be situations where you can heal more per second but 90% of the time dm trinket still owns.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

heals coming from VE while this is active, would it get the healing bonus? just curious

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dont even consider other 2 rewards ,priests spend lots of dkp on Talisman of Ephemeral Power(2m cooldown also and clearly they use only healing part) its a overpowered blue.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

!@#$ you bliz for making this Horde-only. My guild has seen the ToEP drop twice, and both of them went to priests. GGs

Kommentar von Allakhazam

That's a pretty cool ring. Most items that have a ''use'' stat suck, so this kinda stands out..

However it is only for priests.. Poor Druids, Pallies & Shammies :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i want the same thing for my druid too :'(

poor me

Kommentar von Allakhazam

heals coming from VE while this is active, would it get the healing bonus? just curious

Does not appear that VE stacks with this item. I just tested it in the burning stepps. My heal rate with VE remained constant with mindflay 38-41, and 140-145, with and without the beads.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

#1 Get an Ichor of Undeath before starting.

#2 Talk to Furbolg in Azshara, and Kill the Stags to the north or south to get 4 of the item he asks you for. Return to him.

#3 Get Ichor of Undeath (hopefully, you brought it with you, if not, kill undead in Azshara) and give it to him.

#4 Go to Sunken Temple and get the blood. He is one of the two green dragons that are on the room right before the dragon shade. Just grab a group and go kill them. Take blood to Felwood and you are done.

Edited, Wed Sep 14 13:14:39 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Cooldown: 2 mins.

Awesome trinket that has become one of my perma-equips in instances. :)

Kommentar von Kittyx

Class	Starting Quest	Rewards To Choose From at the End of the Questline
Druid	Eine bessere Zutat	Ergrauter Pelz, Umarmung des Waldes or Mondschattenstock.
Hunter	Der grüne Drache	Jagdspeer, Auge eines Teufelssauriers or Zahn eines Teufelssauriers.
Mage	Vernichtet Morphaz	Gletscherstachel, Arkankristallanhänger or Feuerrubin.
Paladin	Erschaffung des Steins der Macht	Lichtgeschmiedete Klinge, Geweihte Kugel or Siegelring der Ritterlichkeit.
Priest	Morphaz' Blut	Gesegnete Gebetsperlen, Stab des Leidens or Reif der Hoffnung.
Rogue	Der azurblaue Schlüssel	Ebenholzmaske, Leisetreter or Nachtsaugertuch.
Shaman	Die Macht des Voodoos	Azuritfäuste, Wildstab or Entzückter Wassergeist.
Warlock	Federn von Trollen	Seelenernter, Abysssplitter or Roben der Knechtschaft
Warrior	Voodoofedern	Diamantenfläschchen, Visier des Zorns or Klingenstahlschultern.

Kommentar von knotjad

For Classic, Priest class quest chain:

Cenarische Hilfe
- Picked up from Bruder Joshua (Stormwind) Hohepriester Rohan (Ironforge) & Ur'kyo (Orgrimmar).
- Travel to Azshara & turn in to Ogtinc.
Renner für einen höheren Zweck
- Picked up by Ogtinc (Azshara).
- Loot 4 Gesunde Rennerdrüse from grinding Mooshufrenner Azshara.
- Turn back in to Ogtinc (Azshara).
Sekret des Untodes
- Picked up by Ogtinc (Azshara).
- Grind out 1 Sekret des Untodes from Undeads south-west of questgiver or just buy one from the Auction House.
- Turn back in to Ogtinc (Azshara).
Morphaz' Blut
- Picked up by Ogtinc (Azshara).
- Find group for Sunken Temple dungeon and loot Morphaz' Blut from Morphaz.
- Turn in to Greta Mosshoof (Felwood).
- Get your hard earned Gesegnete Gebetsperlen / Stab des Leidens / Reif der Hoffnung.

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