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Kommentar von kuonji

This 6.6 percent drop chance is bunk. I've killed him about 30 times and never seen it once :). Killed Arlokk the same amount of times and seen her grasp drop 5 times.

Kommentar von 5487

A little fast for a SS or hemo rogue build, but still fairly nice. One thing that's unique about this set is that it's proc can proc off of ranged attacks, making it a nice weapon for hunters, who will be using it for awhile. I say that this should go first to hunters, then to anyone else who wants it.

Kommentar von 6971

I would estimate the proc rate at about 1% or so. I'm a hunter with a 2.9 speed bow and it does not proc all that frequently. I use it because it is just so fun.

Kommentar von Hyde

This even includes ranged damage so Hunters should roll on this also. Its kind of nice to see a giant tiger shooting a bow.

Kommentar von 8171

The +13 stam is nice especially when mixed with a +15agi enchant for hunters. Took me about 8 weeks from when the off hand dropped before I got this one I think in patch 1.12 the drop rate was increased slightly.

This is an amazing weapon set for you hunters out there, I have it on my troll hunter. The weapon proc from both is actually quite frequent if you use autofire alot. The proc is very beneficial to hunters as you do get a 300 atk power bonus to your ranged atk power and you can also Feign Death while in the tiger form for a very amusing death scene.

Kommentar von Thottbot

only arms dps warriors like me need slow weapons. fury builds are meant for fast dual weilding with lot of AP. this set is just perfect for them, and because of the offhand proc you can tell this set has fury warrior all over it. hunters can still make somewhat good use of the set proc i guess but other than that, the weapons themselves are not really good at all for them.
rogues dont really seem all that thrilled about them

Kommentar von Thottbot

With all due respect you clearly know rogues BUT � here is my soap box crazy long post

A hunter can make it proc just as much as a rogue.

FYI
Rapid Fire 40% speed increase
Quiver 13-16% speed increase
That�s a
53-56% speed increase � And all hunters regardless of Build can do that.

If you have as little as 5 Points in Beast Mastery you have a 5% chance to increase your attack speed by 30% called improved Aspect of the Hawk � and When It Goes Off
A: It�s clear as day that it went off
B: A good hunter can�t click Rapid Fire Fast enough (assuming you have a good Tank)
C: Quiver is always in the picture
D: I�m not going to include the new Hunter enchant for Legs/Head from ZG just cus - you should by now - get my point.
That�s an increase in Attack speed of {drum roll please} 83-86% OMFG!

And you can get this crazy attack speed combo every five minutes (so for places that take setup before a fight MC/parts of ZG/and BWL) it will have cooled for every fight that counts end of story.

It�s a great wep and you will get it with DKP or in an incredibly unlikely PUG if it came to a roll off � I would argue its the only weapons in the game that can proc from Range�But Rogues will argue the DPS, and other fair things� I cant and never would say it is not good for a rogue (It is) � but is it the best ever wep for a rogue, Is it the last wep they will ever equip, is it the end all be all of 2 incredibly important spots on their build? �.. Nope � but IMO A hunter worth his salt and has 2 brain cells to rub together (granted we are few and far between) can say yes to all.

And let me mitigate a few more things:
Q: But a hunter never melees:
A: We have two weapon Slots for a reason (the most important is your build for range) and Blizzard finally gave us some epics.
Q: But a Hunter should only care about crit and get 2 dawns Edge:
A: You�re a FN tard Dawns Edge sucks big fat ugly � well you get the picture.
Q: 2 BS Hatchets give you more Attack power.
A: This is a good point � but over time two BS hatchets will be less Attack power by far when the proc is calculated correctly again over time.
Q: But the weapon does not say class Hunter
A: Blizzard does that a lot on weapons that are clearly better for one class over another - to make it take even longer for you to get it � why so they make more money (think about it).
On a side note if you have this set I wonder if a really fast Bow like the Hurricane � may end up doing more DMG than something with a higher DPS rating (food for thought).

I posted this more for Guild Masters trying to determine who should have priority on the bid for this sweet set. My guild has determined Its Hunters First on these - so I'm happy - just got to grind the crap out of ZG.

Kommentar von Thottbot

question: how often does this proc ?
answer: very often

A hunter in my guild was the first to get both and hers procs quite often. I've even seen it proc 3 times during the hakkar boss fight, as well as nearly a guaranteed proc during most MC trash pulls. Giants/Destroyers especially.

To the 51 begging for it: get real. No guild is going to take a non-60 to ZG, much less give them what is arguably the best fist-set in the game.

Kommentar von Thottbot

got both yesterday :D very happy hunter

Kommentar von Thottbot

a nice picture of the set bonus ;D

http://www.fxcartell.com/WOW/angelinee_thekal.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is a crazy hunter weapon( not saying only for hunters). It procs with range and also increases range attack power. "Grants a small chance when ranged or melee damage is dealt to infuse the wielder with a blessing from the Primal Gods. Ranged and melee attack power increased by 300 for 12 seconds."

Kommentar von Thottbot

F uck I cant belive it, both of these dropped in one run for me. Im a rogue btw (EU Shadowmoon, Alliance), dunno why hunters didnt want that, but im not very impressed with dmg of these things. I think I'll stay with Lobo/ScarletKris dagger build. But this things is pretty funny and looks awesome.
http://www.ljplus.ru/img/i/_/i_black_milk_i/Tiger.JPG

Kommentar von Thottbot

In my eyes, this set does benefit 3 classes: primarily combat rogues, hunters, and fury warriors.

Now, the set bonus looks nice, but unless you have these weapons like I do, you wouldn't know HOW RARE the proc really is. So to assign these weapons based on the proc is wrong. You need to look more at the raw stats.

1% crit, 13 stamina, and a damage proc in the faster offhand. That would = combat rogue or fury warrior more. The 300 atk power bonus is nice, but like I said, it's rare and can't be depended on.

Survival spec hunters would be the next in the line for weapon priority, due to their enhanced melee capabilites and two +15 agi enchants. The stamina and crit chance are 2 stats survival hunters depend on just as much as Agi, and their 15% boost to agi would make it a total of almost 35 agi. Marksmanship hunters wouldn't benefit much at all, since they are weak in melee and depend on scatter shot/wing clip for distancing themselves and aren't as powerful in melee.

I am a survival spec hunter (0/20/31). I was suprised when none of our combat rogues wanted these weapons, and the fury warriors wanted to stick with their swords. So, naturally I forked over my dkp to upgrade from dual assassins blades. I couldn't be happier with the upgrade. I also enjoy the slower main hand weapon for fatter raptor strikes (I have hit upwards of 800 crits). The offhand is almost completely useless stat wise though, as the shadow damage is also a rare chance on hit.

The proc only seems to go off once every 10 minutes or so, which is why I say handing this weapon out shouldn't depend on the set bonus. The ranged attack power boost is definitely worth it though. The damage boost is equivelant to 150 agi. That's quite significant, but again - rare.

It can go to any of those classes for almost equal use, though if combat rogues want it - I'd say give them priority (Coming from a hunter).

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8601/runforestrun2ed.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

On Durotan, raiding in Durotan Knights I know have both fist weapons from the same run in zg two nights apart. We now have two people in our guild with the complete set. I won the main hand with a 95 and the raid was kind enough to give me the offhand weapon as well. I can honestly say, that, when you spec right for these, they completely own. I do have screenshots but I may not post them for a while until I get them uploaded.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hey, i got the mainhand today, shooting for the offhand. Anyway these are better then rogues think. Nice damage, nice speed , with speed by the way comes easily applied poison wich will rip your targets up with instant poison. Plus when it procs.. not only do you pretty much become like.. say A GOD, you turn into a kickass tiger :D. So that being said rogues should shoot for this.. but not on Alleria cuz i need to get my offhand so yah.

-Blindkiller

Kommentar von Thottbot

This set can be used better by combat rogues and heres why.

my rogue build is 8/32/11
he has full fist wep spec which is 5% crit chance with fist weps. he has 5% crit chance from assassination spec too. Plus he has +5skill with FW, swords and daggers. combat rogues had blade flurry, 20% speed and attack 2 target at once for 15secs. They should have an imp. slice and dice, longer slice and dice which boosts speed by 30% they also have sinister strike and eviscerate boosting talents. Slower weapons go good with combat rogues cause of dmg. range plsu they can just boost the hell out of the speed. Now, with the fist weps I have a natural +10% crit chance with em, add all ur dex mods and what not (plus the wep gives crit) u easily can get 30% chance to crit with em EASY! I'm just saying combat spec rogues should get priority on them. My guild agreed with me on that.

Kommentar von Thottbot

lol he is right any good end game guild ask fist spec rogues if they need it first because we can get +10% to crit with it among many other upgrades in +hit and +skill

its a spec only rogues have, but if the rogue is not specced for it then warriors and hunters can use it... but learn the specs learn who actually NEEDS something and quite being a noob at lvl 60

Kommentar von Thottbot

also whoever has one piece of it gets first priotity over the rest of the people because of how low the drop rate is and how they will actually get to use the set bonus

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My friend, a lvl 60 hunter on Bloodscalp EU just completed it. Looks awesome, procs quite a lot. Will try to get beter pictures. Click here.

Edited, Fri Dec 30 14:03:41 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Someone said something about seeing a video of a war w/ this set. Can anyone put up a link or give the name of the video?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Im a Hunter and I have this set and all i can say:

It looks good but it sucks!

Proccrate ist too low (<1% imo), and duration is too short - about 8 Sec.

As a (marksman) hunter you go better with any other +Crit +AP + Agi Weapon for DPS boost.

I use Fang of the faceless and brutaliy Blade - that gives 4 DPS and 1% crit more than this set
while the claws give a 30 DPS Boost for about 8 seconds once in a year...

If you want high Ranged DPS Bonus weapons as a hunter go get FotF and Hakkari Mainhand, the come from Zul too and you will be fine till Naxxramas. If you prefer to have a good looking combination of weapons use the claws^^

Kommentar von Allakhazam

First time i fought Arlokk and Thekal, the two grasp i got :)

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 2:35am PST by MShadow

Kommentar von Allakhazam

There are much better ^&*!@#$ lewt out there. Huners gotta stop focusing about the color and dps and start thinking about stats. This is clearly a rogue or warrior weapon, but being that there are no class-restriciton, hunters can roll on it. Do as you want, but its ^&*!ing retarded.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ichron.....i'm jealous -.-

i want the set so freakin' much xD....but "far below 1% proc-rate" sounds too hard to me, don't it?

maybe it's 1%

Kommentar von Allakhazam

so wtf it changes u into a lion thingy? im so lost lol

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I wanna be a tiger >.<

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This dropped last night on Malygos for the Lightbearer Guild completing the set. (It also dropped the very next time we fought High Priest Thekal after getting Arlokk's Grasp to drop. So if you are on Malygos, be on the look out for Tony the Tiger.

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?918532

Kommentar von Allakhazam

2nd rogue to get them on EU-magtheridon.
same run

I love the proc, respecced combat just for them :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got them today @Xavius realm. The mainhand dropped off thekal, noone wanted it, so I took it just so it didnt get sharded. Then the offhand dropped from pantherboss and I was happy.

Have been using em for 4 hours now or so, they proc alot!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You're all idiots and don't know what gear you should have...

Good job.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://spqr.250free.com/tiger.jpg

:)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The Proc on this Set is +300 attackpower, but if you want to see what REALLY happens (and I don't mean the extra damage) then take a look at this!

Thundercats - HO!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'm guessing it comes from ZG. Finaly a fist weapon usefull for rogues! *happy*

Kommentar von Allakhazam

After having read the posts, and people saying it procs very rarely, would this not make it more of a hunter suitable weapon? With a fast firing bow, then the proc would be more of a bonus as they rely on their bows/etc for damage, rather than the actual weapons?

Edited, Fri Dec 16 05:44:44 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

love the claws, specially when we fighting in BWL or MC, proced 3 times on raggy... hahaha...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Are this one and the Arlokk one compatible? That is can I use one from each and still change into Tiger?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In my first try @ Arlokk & Thekal ! i have luck!

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3133/graspishiiwk1.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The proc makes this best for a Hunter.

'NufF SeD

kthnxbi

Kommentar von Allakhazam

. . . Cool, good thing you can actually see the item in the picture and it's not blurry or too dark . . .

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got the other piece just this morning, and its so awesome
it procs say once every 5 minutes
I tried it on a baron run, with instant poison, slice and dice, rupture and maelstrom card (just incase, you never know what exactly counts ), and I got the blessing on 4 bosses out of .. the rest

nobody else wanted it so I had no competition inside the guild
I like cats anyway, so I now im all set to purr at my opponents before ripping them apart ¬_¬
*rawr*

Kommentar von Allakhazam

won this claw yesterday :)
dropps from the boss with the tigers in ZG ..(forgott the name ^^)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i must say, ive never seen anything more ugly in my life than that proc effect. sheesh.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Vapor Smolderthorn Server
http://static.zoovy.com/img/zoctober/-/1/vap4.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

got both of these last night on kael'thas server..they are frggin sweet

Edited, Oct 9th 2006 at 7:08pm PDT by ltizzle

Kommentar von Allakhazam

so can anyone tell me who is the second pic from. I'm guessing its a hacked server.

Pretty cool looking though

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This would look good on Shamans now ;) Since patch 2.0 with Dual Wield ^^
And if it procs, hey u can call the shaman a tiger also :D haha

Kommentar von Allakhazam

damn you blizzard! xD

"2.37% chance to drop. (9 in 380)"

dammit xD

same low rate @ arlokk's grasp:

"1.12% chance to drop. (2 in 178)"

dammitdammitdammit xD

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Lol, who the hell gives this to a rogue, clearly made for fury warriors... I mean, 2.20 speed? :X

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I would like to point out with the instant atk changes in 1.8 this weapon is much more viable for rogues than pre1.8. In fact, i'll be taking it as soon as we get it to drop ( hopefully lol ) :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got mine two day's ago on Bronzebeard! Got 299 in skill with unarmed but it still kicks ass :) Hope the other part dropps on my next run :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Brokensword is now turning into this tiger-thingy on Kael'Thas EU ^^

Took me 2 runs to get my hands on this set, pretty happy :)

Edited, Sun Jun 11 20:55:37 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Been after Thekal's Grasp for ages, haven't dropped yet. : /

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Z'G maybe? I would really like this set of fist weapons for my Hunter. Thekal's Grasp and Arlokk's Grasp would be quite nice.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

When the set proc goes off, it transforms the user into a bipedal tiger (looks like the tiger boss).

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5156/tigerwagon3pk.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have a question, After these proc could u swap ur main hand with a sword in order to be way higher Eviserates, or do u have to have both weapons epuipped after it procs in order to maintain the proc? TY in advance.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Shut up about this "hunter weapon" or "warrior weapon" crap, it doesnt matter. Who ever gets them, its their choice wether they use it or not regardless of class. Just becuase you havent got it doesnt mean you can complain.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is the proc about %1 of a critical hit because i've heard this from a few people?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You guys think hemo would do better on this weapon or sinister srike?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got it on my hunter , rolled against a rogue and another hunter . Since all the warriors were either tank specced or had better dps weapons .

cant wait to get arlokks , so i can have some fun with the proc :D

-loky , frostmane

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Woah, the proc for the set is nice +300 ap/rap, but I dont think I'd take this over some other weapon combo's... since the proc rate is under 1%? Not worth it IMO since you could gain so much more in the long run then this, oh BTW lagwagon kicks ass, teh band ^^

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Complete my set Monday and have great fun about it. It is not really a update for rank 14 wepaons consider I lost 56 attack power, 1% crit and melee dps while Primal Blessing has like 1% chance to proc.

However this set is very cool weapons after all who can resisit the chance to become a tiger? I am only dispoint that tiger doesn't have bow shotting animation. It kind feel strange to only see arrows come out from your body.

I still haven't have the chance to have it and Dragonstalker proc at same time.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Collected both of these last night.

While they are fun and gather a crowd nicely, the stats on them and the dmg range isnt really what a rogue is looking for.

Great fun though. love the proc

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have both of these on my Orc hunter. i took these into IF and the Set bonus set off. u have not seen a massacre until u have seen wat happened that day. i was just killin 60 after 60 and barely getting touched. i was pretty much unstoppable until the proc wore off then i died almost instantly lol.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

damn; had an error while posting, and f5 didnt show my message up, so i acidentally double-posted, im sorry

Edited, Thu Feb 2 10:42:30 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

u NE's can co shadowmelm or something cus this is how it's supposed to look:
http://hem.bredband.net/alfrap/pics/grasps1.png

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hopefully this will drop tonight for me (Hunter) Got Arlokk's yesterday :D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you're gonna use it just for the proc, give it to a rogue. I know a rogue that has both. Seen him proc the thing 2 or 3 times against one mob. It was frickin' great. I can understand putting it on a hunter, but I'd pass to a rogue unless he had better.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got the set completed about a week ago. Me being a 60 NE Hunter.
First time we downed Arlokk, her grasp dropped, and only me and a fury spec warrior were interested (I was, because i knew the set). Then, a night or 2 later, we get to Thekal, down him for our first time, and he drops HIS grasp. I got it to complete my set and well...what can i say? I love it, you can make some badass Multi shot / aimed shot crits with a Bloodseeker / Carapace Spine (900 non crit aim, havent critted yet) And autshots rising into the 400's with no epic gear whatsoever equipped.
So far it looks like as if it procs faster on Close Combat hits (granted; you hit more in Close Combat as well). Its a pretty low proc chance, i'd say about 1-3% as a feeling.
All i need know is Eaglehorn Long bow (decent dps + stats AND quick; 1.8) and i'm set :D

Ltnox
60 Night-Elf Hunter
<The Dutch Immortals>
Drak'thul EU

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got both claws and I don't know what the guy below me is complaining about. As long as you don't rely on it proc when you want, its still pretty good. It happens seldomly for me, might be cuz I'm using a somewhat fast bow(Heartstriker). This + Quick Shot + Rapid Fire + Devilsaur Eye + 8/8 DS combo is fantastic, but it is extremely slim chance you actually get them all at once though it happens. Combined effect of +900 ranged Attack Power with incredible speed :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

guys....you know what?

i'm day-dreaming....just imagine....a hunter with the full dragonstalker-set + the primal-blessing-set here....

now imagine, te "expose weakness" of the dragonstalker-set procs and at the same time the primal blessing of the weapon-set procs!

expose weakness holds 7sec, primal blessing 12sec....together you would have +750 Attack-power....that are +53,5DPS....

I W A N T T H A T W E A P O N S E T !
I'll kick all people in their a55e5, when they want to tell me, that a hunter can't roll on that xD

(btw. the set-boni-description tells us: "Grants a small chance when ranged or melee damage is dealt to infuse the wielder with a blessing from the Primal Gods. Ranged and melee attack power increased by 300 for 12 seconds.")

so, you see - "CLEARLY HUNTERWEAPON, W00T" xD

;-*
;)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This amazing item drops of High Priest Thekal. Thekal is the fifth boss located in the Zul Gurrub Instance. His aspect is that of the "Tiger". The guide for killing him, and claiming your phat lewt can be found here:
Hohepriester Thekal

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Drops from the Tiger boss in ZG. End Guys On Sargeras got it on 9/14.

http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thekalsclaw1xv.jpg

Can't figure out how to submit the pic though.

Edited, Thu Sep 15 22:31:53 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

@ Annick Scholar: woh! woh!

i'm a really tolerant hunter, but i would strongly ask to roll on this cutty as a hunter, too....it gives +1% crit and with the complete set you hace a proc-chance to get +300AP for 12sec...melee AND range-AP :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Here's better screenshots. Before and after the proc.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Ichron/ZG_Claw_Set.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Ichron/ZG_Claw_Proc.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Server first on EU Trollbane.

Tatanka, Blackraven Guild
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6110/wowscrnshot1230051013340ja.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

A rogue in Brotherhood of the Wolf on Stormreaver, Sian, got this today. And he was kind of lucky later on as well, the Arlokk dropped the same run!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Been a loooong time since I've used these two, had em banked for over a year. Rogues, in all seriousness (I've played a rogue in a raiding environment, so to all you trollers, stfu), this set isn't that great for you. The main hand is too fast for effective SS and Hemo dmg, and even with the 5 crit, you wont do the same damage you'd do with the Dal'rend's set. Hunters: GTFO OFF THIS PAGE. Great story for all of you hunters who want to roll on melee ^&*!:
In BWL one evening, a Claw of the Black Drake dropped. I was using Vis'kag the Bloodletter/Brutality Blade (yeah, I know, typical, long since replaced), and a certain hunter was using Fang of the Faceless/Corehound Tooth. We run raids on FFA, just how we do things, and he walked up and ninja'd it. I &*!@ing SCREAMED on vent, called him all sorts of names, and got demoted. I did, however, stay in the raid. We move on past Ebonroc/Flamegor (GG rogues, DFT was mine that night), and we kill Chromagnaros. What should drop, but an Ashjre'Thul, Crossbow of Smiting. The hunters all send their tells to the raid leader, saying why it would be such a great replacement for them. I send our raid leader a tell saying "I'm sorry", and I walked up and took the crossbow. Now, the purpose of this story is not to justify ninja looting, it is to show you hunters that not every melee weapon belongs to them, especially if it is a sidegrade/minor upgrade. I walked out of there with a nice crossbow to laugh at, a Drake Fang Talisman, and a Crul'Shorukh, Edge of Chaos. The hunter walked out of there with a fist weapon he was never going to use, a broken heart, and a new respect for melee weapons, which he shared with his fellow hunters. Since then, melee classes got melee priority, and same for ranged with ranged classes.
If you guys were confined to ZG at the time this dropped, and a hunter got the set, dont feel bad, hunter when a rogue takes Dwarf Destroyer. I replaced these a week later with the Warblade Set, which was a minor upgrade. I take em out in naxx every now and then, and the proc is still fun to see.

Kommentar von Mungbeansss

Everything with attack power and crit on it in ZG is HUNTAR wpn. That includes this

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