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Kommentar von Desacrasa

25AGI 24AP in the newest 2.0.1 patch.

Kommentar von kaztal

Best rogue neck in the game. Yes, better than Barbed Choker, better than KT neck - better than anything.. Before 2.0.1 it gives 30 ap, 1 crit and 1 hit. 1 crit is basically the same as 1 hit. KT neck gives 2 crit and 24 ap. BC gives 1 crit 44 ap. 1 hit > 14 ap provided your dps is over 100. Changing 1/6 crit for 24 ap will only increase this value from a rogues point of view.

Kommentar von Milano

This neck is so sweet that I creamed my pants when I got it on my rogue. Currently the best neck for hunters aswell. Even feral druids and fury warriors gets great use out of this, especially now after the upgrade in 2.0

Kommentar von 6766

The 5 agility trade-off in the most recent patch seems to be more than worth it in my view. How far this will remain useful into the expansion remains to be seen, but changes to items such as this one and the Nozdormu rings will be very useful in the next month or so

Kommentar von 7375

This has been updated in the 2.0 Patch
The correct stats are:
+25 Agility
+22 AP
+10 Crit Rating

As a rogue this to me is even nicer!!!

Kommentar von 6770

+10 HIT rating, not crit rating...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hunters main stat is AGI just like a rogue, I think hunters and rogues are equally eligible for this item. Whoever has the more DKP I suppose.

30 agi = 60 RAP for the hunter and 0.6% crit, abit of dodge and abit of armour.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm a lvl 60 rogue, and though i would kill for this i do think hunters would make best use of it, cos they need less stamina then we do, and there is no stamina on this! Still, VERRY goor for rogue to!

/Aradalien - Doomhammer

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well.. A Hunter benefits a lot from this item, specially when he's got the +15% Agi Talent. Btw: 1Agi=2AP (range) for Hunter.

I'm not saying that rogues shouldn't take this, but in some cases it would be definitely better around a hunter's neck.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This game is not about you kids argueing about like everything. This game is about having fun and playing the way one likes...

Comparation for fury warriors:

Onyxia Tooth Pendant: +1,6% crit, +1% to hit, +90 hp, +10 fire res

This little fella: +1,5% crit, +1% to hit, no life, no res, but nice bonus to dodge istead...

In other words - when you get one of those, stick to it and be happy, although I vote for Pendant :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

This neck needs to be buffed if we take into account that drops from nefarian, 30 agi is nice but no other stat makes it kind of crappy, add 1 crit or any other stat than to hit and it may become ok

Kommentar von Thottbot

Theoreticly: Which class would come best out with pure ".. of agility"-gear?
(Looking at it with a PvE prespective, as guilds that kills nefarian is without doubt a PvE-guild)

I'd say hunter. Why?
hunters don't really need a balance between the stats. We don't take as much damage as rogues, and therefore we don't need as much stamina as them..
The hunters's job is to stand back and do stable dps. How do they do this? with agi.

Kommentar von Thottbot

IMO this is the single best Hunter Neck especially if your Survival Spec in the game as of now.

Ony Neck.. Nice
Amulet of the Darkmoon.. Nice
This Neck OMGWTF.. Nice

30*1.15 = 34.5 Agi
34.5*2 = 69 RAP
69/14 = 4.92 DPS increase
34.5/52.2 = 0.66% Crit

69 RAP that�s huge IMO

Rogues this is very nice but IMO Onyxia Tooth Pendant is better for you, Amulet of the Darkmoon is friggen sweet as well. I just don�t think you need to give up the stam for hardly any more MAP and about the same crit.

Warrior - Master Dragonslayer's Medallian, Pendant of the Qiraji Gardian, Onyxia Tooth Pendant, Hell Blazefury Medallion are all better for you. Your high as crap crit rate means nothing if you don�t have the power behind it.

Hunter/Rogue/Warrior the +1% Hit benefits you all so it�s a moot point.

Flame me if you want. All I ask is you think about what will benefit your guild the most - if you do that then you get the other crap you want faster.

Thanks,
Killing Pixels since the Trash 80

Kommentar von Thottbot

With survival build -

Prestor's Talisman of Connivery
+1% chance to hit
69 RAP
0,66% chance to crit
1,30% chance to dodge

Onyxia Tooth Pendant
+1% chance to hit
27,6 RAP
1,26% chance to crit
0,52% chance to dodge
90 hp
10 fr

Probably Talisman win in ranged dps output.
Talisman have 41,4 RAP more.
Onyxia pendant have 0,6% crit more.

Kommentar von Thottbot

now that things taht would normally be hunter loot due to only agility are now both rogue and hunter, ths thing now has 47AP ~1 crit and a hit, thats the best rogue neck, who cares about the 2 crit one in naxx. same goes with ring of the godslayer, since its now AP AND agility, its amazing for both.
can't wait to get mine @.@

Kommentar von Thottbot

If I remember correctly stats on this pre patch were 30 AGI and 1% hit? The new stats seem to be more desirable for a rogue now, you're trading 5 agility from the old one for 22 AP on the new one

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hunter weapon.
:D

Edited, Tue Sep 27 19:32:42 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

They are removing the cap, hooray! :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

WOW hunters and rogues have a new friend...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

no words, should have sent a poet *single tear runs down cheek*

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What is with Blizzard's love affair with +hit. They just can't give us enough of a stat with a fixed cap. Anyone in a guild good enough to kill Nefarian will have all the +hit they can use.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Nobody wont it so i took it

me shami

AOE NEED 4TW

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just got it, first kill on Zenedar.

It really is way better for a hunter then for a rogue. 30 agi = 60 rap

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hunter or rogue sure, but as pretty much everyone will have ony tooth pendant it isn't anything to yell about. it's a pretty lame upgrade for either class.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

as a 60 hunter let me just say drop the class discussions. sure i want it. sure rogues want it. sure even warriors want it. I'm sure your guild just goes by DKP, right? on a cooler note, prestors talisman of connivery? wasnt that lady in SW that 'guards' the king, but turns out to be Lady Onyxia in disguise last name Prestor? Connivery=ruse or trick. lol so this must be what let nef and his sister masquerade as humans. So lets discuss that. WTB 'equip: appearance change to human' lol.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

HUNTER PIZZA ^&*!@ES! RANGRANG

Edited, Sun Oct 2 03:32:18 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Warriors should have this? Heh, I think not...rogues and hunters should have first priority, while warriors stick with thier tooth pendant...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

A hunter would gain 69 ranged attack power. Hunters with Lightning Reflexes should clearly get preference over Hunters with inferior builds. Etc.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Rogue only? Hardly. This would be awesome for fury specced warriors.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Looted this tonight, Drama first.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/Sokkoudesu/sokkou.jpg

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?250149

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wow great job guys! Btw, being a hunter I would jump at this, but yes I guess rogues get priority. I'm no ninja.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

They won using an exploit. Read the wow forums.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Subject says it all, I bid and won one of these several weeks ago. It is by far the best dps neck available for a feral druid.

Freeborn, Deathwing US Alliance

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'll stick with my Ony tooth pendant. As a rogue, I'd pass to a hunter anyway. It just seems better for them.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It could go a couple ways War/hunter/rogue..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

To be fair, this neck is best used by hunters, since they can pretty much get everything from agility.

I'm sorry, but any rogue or warrior that takes this over a onyxia tooth pendant needs to learn2play.

As a warrior who got the blood talisman for tanking, I might actually consider getting this one day, since I won't be able to get the onyxia tooth, but I'm sure there's better stuff out there for a fury warrior.

Edited, Thu May 11 20:40:12 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Note that this item was changed in 2.0.1. It's even better now and well worth taking it over the Onyxia Tooth Pendant.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

better then ony tooth by leaps and bounds for rogues and warriors after 2.0; not "hunter-only" anymore. ;p

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'm reading all these posts about ow warriors should get this...umm...no. Onyxia's necklace is better for them, this is CLEARLY as hunter and rogue's thing.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

for those who read Day of the Dragon, Lord Prestor of alterac was Deathwings human guise

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Prestor=Lady Katrina Prestor in SW=Onyxia, nefarian's sister-just clearing stuff up. Grats to drama, you guys are crazy

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Rogues, hunters, and DPS'ing warriors should get priority.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Onyxia's necklace is better for warriors.

Hunters first, then rogues, then warlocks.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've seen a warrior with this and what I thought was 'WTF?' I'm a warrior myself and would much rather have something with Strength and Stamina on it, oh well some people are morons.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

con·nive
intr.v. con·nived, con·niv·ing, con·nives

1. To cooperate secretly in an illegal or wrongful action; collude: The dealers connived with customs officials to bring in narcotics.

2. To scheme; plot.

3. To feign ignorance of or fail to take measures against a wrong, thus implying tacit encouragement or consent: The guards were suspected of conniving at the prisoner's escape.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hunter/Rogue/DPS Warrior, then Pallies, then Tanks. Maybe even Feral Druids too if the guild is cool like that.
Never seen this drop off Nefarion yet though =(
I want it =D
It's slightly better than the Onyxia Tooth Pendant, minus the 1% crit, when you're in an instance/Battleground that dosen't require Fire Resist. I'll probably pass on it for a while though because Maelstrom's Wrath is pretty nice too.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This would be better for an hunter since it has no ap, a hunter would gain 60 ap from this!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Schweet

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Connivery?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

really kicking myself for passing on this to other people after seeing how much of a buff it got in the last patch.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

well at least warriors can stay out of this debate i think. 30 agility is nice and all but much better necks out there for us in a damage roll.

this is coming from a warrior who outbid all the hunters/rogues for my guilds first quick strike ring.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

People seem to forget that there is a thing called a Feral Druid. I would bid for this, not only because I am a loot *!@#$, but also because it would greatly increase my crit rate in cat and bear forms. And for people that mention the Ony Tooth...I took the Blood Talisman, since it was better FR and there are so few things for +defense for druids.

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