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Kommentar von 7049

This weapon is arguably one of the best dps weapons in the game. The crossbow of smiting is a slight upgrade from the Rhok'delar bow obtained in the hunter epic quest. This weapon has a ranged attack power stat on it, making it useless for any class besides the hunter.

Kommentar von 7043

This x-bow is only surpassed by the Nerubian Slavemaker, a very nice gun dropped in Naxxramas.

Kommentar von 4172

Best pre-naxx weapon for hunters, primarily because of the slow speed. Because it has a speed greater than 3.00, Aimed Shot actually makes it both shoot faster and do more damage. Aimed Shot is a primary source of damage for raiding hunters, so that is very important. Also, it has amazing DPS and great stats! One of the best hunter weapons in the whole game!

Kommentar von 8198

I have had this weapon for months, and I've watched other hunters pick up the AQ40 gun or Huhu's Stinger... and they have always been disappointed with the results. In this most recent patch, Huhuran's is finally able to surpass Rhok'Delar in DPS... but, from what I've seen from friends, only is it substantially better if you are beast mastery. Ashjre is BY FAR the best weapon you can find outside of KT drops: it his for 500-600 damage with BWL level gear, its speed is lowered to 2.8-2.9 with quiver, and it is also (luckily) one of the only bows in the game that ONLY hunters are after. If your guild can kill Chromagus, wait for this bow. You will not be disappointed.

Kommentar von XenosBH

tydie is correct when he/she says that only the Slavemaker is better at this time. My guild has run BWL and killed Chromag almost 30 times and he hasnt dropped this x-bow once. I'm top Hunter DKP and want it badly.

Kommentar von Serpent

I've heard stories of people killing Chromaggus dozens of times and still not having this crossbow drop, however I saw two drop in just two months of raiding.

I am moderately geared and I I have multi-shots that hit in the 1800 range. It's easily one of the best bows in the game, although I imagine we will all be upgrading when the BC expansion hits.

Kommentar von 9590

What a weapon. It hits like a monster and is great for hunters. I recommend getting this if you have the chance, it is definitely one the most powerful bows in the game. At least until Burning Crusade comes out, then it'll be time to get some new stuff.

Kommentar von Kaoswarr

This crossbow is currently the ranged weapon with the highest max damage (slowest) in the game (Pre TBC).

When i had full GS set (+15% multishot damage bonus) i could reach almost 2.2k multishot crits on low armor targets (without blasted lands buff, mongoose and grilled squid).

Aimed shot crits are around 2.7k on low armor targets.

It is definately the best PVP ranged weapon at this time.

Your Aimed shot crits **** for 2434 damage.
Your Autoshot crits **** for 1024 damage.
Your Mutlishot crits **** for 1974 damage.
**** dies.

Starting combos dreams are made of.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Can you tell us in what damage range this x-bow is?

Im having really.. sick thoughts about how easy something can get killed with this :o

Kommentar von Thottbot

You guys are joking right? I can't tell who's joking and who's not anymore. All you warriors/rogues I'll take as being serious, and reply with 1 thing:

+36 RANGED attack power.

TYVM.

Kommentar von Thottbot

With 1k attackpower and the BG 30% damage buff you could get an aimed shot crit for 4723.5 before armor reduction...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Above poster is either a retard, or obviously lieing.

Anyways remade my calculations and with 1300 attackpower and 30% damage buff from BG, the aimed shot on this crossbow would land at 5021.9 with the current mortal shots, and 4620,14 in 1.7 with the Mortal Shots nerf.

Note that this is the best possible you can get with that attackpower, and also before armor reduction :)

So at clothwearers around ~3600-3800 and ~2600-2800 on warriors/paladins. This is the best possible you could most likely get in real PvP unless your target sits naked.

Kommentar von Thottbot

hunter in my guild has it 2-3 shots people all the time.. he wants the ZG trinket too.. resets aimed shot timer.. imagine

aimed shot, multi, auto, aimed, multi, auto..

Kommentar von Thottbot

the above comment makes me wanna have sex with this crossbow

Kommentar von Thottbot

I think its called Doomshot
Its the hunter "kill target" buttor - all you have to do is have them trapped or get the jump.
Aimed shot - Multishot - Autoshot
All within about 1 second of eachother, if aimed shot crits its 3k+ if multi crits its 2300+ if both crit its over 4k.
Slower bow = higher aimed shot/multishot damage

Kommentar von Thottbot

This crossbow is currently the ranged weapon with the highest max damage (slowest) in the game.

With full GS set (+15% multishot damage bonus) I reach almost 2.2k multishot crits on low armor targets (without blasted lands buff, mongoose and grilled squid).

Aimed shot crits are around 2.7k on low armor targets.

It is definately the best PVP ranged weapon at this time.

Your Aimed shot crits **** for 2434 damage.
Your Autoshot crits **** for 1024 damage.
Your Mutlishot crits **** for 1974 damage.
**** dies.
Starting combos dreams are made of.

/Nahaz
Draenor EU

Kommentar von Thottbot

Glad that there's a gun clearly for hunters. Not that my raid group would ever pass ranged weapons to melee over hunter but still. If your guild can get to Chromaggus and kill it, he's going to be in farm status soon. So the 6th or 7th drop and from there on end is probably going to be a nexus crystal.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have not hit even close to 5700. I could see that on an aimed shot with burning affliction on Vael or something.

The highest Aimed shot I have hit with this bow to date is 3398. I have had Ashjre'Thul for about 2 weeks now. I am survival spec'd with 533 unbuffed agility and 1484 unbuffed ranged attack power. I hit a lot of multi shots around 2200 to 2550 and I hit a lot of auto shot crits for 2k to 2.1k. My average Aimed Shot crit is 2800.

This is by FAR the best bow I have seen in the game to date. That high end damage is 20 more than Rhok Delar. I go through A LOT less ammo with this crossbow as it is much slower, but my overall DPS has increased HUGELY since using this bow.

This Crossbow in PvP is nothing short of amazing. I can easily 2 shot cloth wearers. HIt them with a 3k aimed shot then a 2200 multi right after and bye bye priest/mage/warlock!

I honestly think if someone that is a NON hunter was to take this away from a hunter, that should be a crime. Yes its a nice crossbow for anyone that can use crossbows, but honestly, it would benefit your guild as a whole to see it in the hands of a hunter.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This item is missing the tag:
Classes: Hunter

Kommentar von Thottbot

I so much hate Blizzard now... I worked my ass off to get nice gear, spent way too many nights raiding and ignoring my family...

So my DREAM item for months was this crossbow. I saved my DKP up for ages to make sure that when it did finally drop, I would have this for my very own. Well I finally got it about 2 months ago (Was the first one on my server, until about 2 weeks ago, now there is another one). I took it to AV the next day and the damage output was INSANE... Hitting cloth wearers for 3.2-3.4k damage.

Then I read the bad news... About the ranged weapon "normalization" (*cough cough NERF) of hunters...

How WTF would Blizzard go and do this? Doesnt that make raiding high end instances and getting your dream weapon (in this case Ashjre'thul for me) slightly more useless?

From what I can understand, it will still be the 2nd best ranged weapon in the game for a hunter (the first being the bow off Huhuran in AQ40). So now I am saving my DKP again to get that bow...

God I hate blizzard...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Due to the 1.10 patch that came out today, I read about the normalization of multishot and other hunter skills. Does this affect the "perfection" of this bow for hunter? Are there any better bows out there for hunters? Im searching for "THE" bow for hunters. If two such bows exist I would prefer a reference to the better suited pvp or pve weapon. I realize some hunters will scream "NURF NURF" at this patch, but whats done is done and we need to figure out which weapons are better suited for our class post 1.10

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok I have ran the numbers several times now - I have both this and Rhok - B4 the Nerf it was not even close Rhok got OMGWTFPWNed by Ashj. Now sadly they are about the same under most conditions.

Over the whole course of a Raid Ashj will still do more Total Damage - by a fair amount. But; here is the reason why - Auto shots when you are out of mana.

If you do the typical Multi - Auto - Auto - Aimed rotation as I do and pretty much nothing else in a raid several times you will be out of mana (Paly judgment/Shamy Totam) or not its going to happen at that point its auto - auto - auto - etc.. The only way for you not to run out of mana is to stop the cycle - anyway you look at it - their will be points you stop the cycle. In those cases and only in those cases will you see a significant difference between Rhok and Ashj.

Other than that it seems what you loose on Auto shot Dmg on Rhok you make up with crits; and what you loose with crits on Ashj you make up with auto shot dmg � Keep in mind that�s comparing rotations on both. Auto shot dmg vs auto shot dmg Ashj owns Rhok but when you mix in Multi and Aimed (as you should) they start to you guessed it normalize.

I looked at both short term Dmg and Long term Dmg and this is how I have come to this conclusion: short term Dmg when mana is not an issue they do almost the same amount of Total Damage with ashj barely and I mean barely doing more however; over the course of a raid Ashj comes out on Top by a fair amount. So my point is unless you are a mana pot junkie or an abnormally equipped hunter in terms of Int Ashj will do more Damage over the course of your raid. Believe me if you want I could care less - I just wanted to let peeps know my Observations.

Looks like the mages got Blizzard to give them what they wanted - *Shakes Fist at cry baby mages who don�t know how to do DPS* Still Ashj is worth it and still Ashj is in fact one of the best Ranged weps - I put it at #2 cus my gun skill will be 1/300 forever no matter what - Im just a nerd like that but you dwarfs will put it at #3.

EDIT - YA YA I know you can FD/OOC and Drink Still you wont always do that A) The Boss or Mob is about to die so who cares B) You could get hit by an AOE C) You have a DOT on you D) FD Fails - etc, etc, etc, but absolutely a Place like MC you can FD/OOC and drink all the time - BWL is a little bit different not saying you cant - hell you almost have to in spots just sometimes you are prevented from doing so.

EDIT #2 - Please understand that Just because you see a bigger individual Number on an Aimed Shot or Multi shot this does not automatically mean you are doing more DMG (especially when your talking about a shot Rotation) clearly for the mathematically challenged - this is the weapon speed part of the equation. Again this is why I said TOTAL Damage and not individual shot DMG.

Clue: Sort out your wep speed, Look at your Total Number of Shots, Look at your Total DMG per shot-type, play with the over x amount of time part see how many rotations you get in x amount of time, look at your averages and understand that what they did was nerf the crap out of this wep - in respect to Aimed and Multi and thereby Normalize those two attacks. Again it�s still a great wep it is not however the I-win button it was. Rhok = more shots at less Dmg, this plus the crit vs attack power aspect makes Rhok and Ashj under the conditions I mentioned do about the same amount of DMG.

I love to figure this kind of crap out this is the aspect of the Game that keeps nerds like me playing. Not saying others can�t figure this out hell its a joke if you try I just want to help clear the air on just how bad this was nerfed due to the fact I am in a position to post my observations. Again to be clear this is still a great Ranged Wep and you will be very happy with it - I just hope I didn't confuse anyone with my long ass post.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Exactly

Key words "Auto Shot DMG"
You Got it "Last Night"

You should have seen your Multi/Aimed shots before the Nerf....

As I said Auto Shots make the Difference now between the two and Ashj Wins.

Kommentar von Thottbot

While attack power IS useful for rogues...
This weapon gives RANGED attack power.
RANGED.
Rogues are MELEE.
Think about it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i got this on july, 9, 2006. i am the hunter with the lower dkp on my guild, and i wasnt sure about it, since most of people sais blizz nerfed slow ranged weapons dps, but i thought well it looks cool and if i am not the best geared hunter in our guild at least i will have a the best lloking weapon. right now i am 3/8 DS, 5/8 GS. my DPS has gone up to the top of all hunters in my guild. or atleast on the 1 ior 2nd place on hunters, even that we have an 8/8 DS hunter and a 6/6 Marshal pvp hunter epic set.

well, now all hunter on my guild want to get this, and i am the only one who has it, i am really happy i got this =)

soo, hunters this is the best weapon you can get. unles your guild can kill most of bosses in naxxramas.
EDIT: now that i am tier 5 on TBC, i wish they added weapons with this attack speed. this weapon is the only with 3.4 and we will probably never see something like this again...
its still on my bank ^^

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hunter Weapon ! Yes this one is truly a hunter weapon ! As a Main tank I can't deny the very fact that this weapon wasn't made for me, nor for rogues nor for anybody BUT hunters ! What you guys wanna do with such weapon with increased RANGED AP ?

This is !@#$ing useless to us. We need passive stats that are usefull when we deal melee damage ! who cares about making damage with bows when you have a 70 DPS 2 handers or better ?

Unless you have a very rich guild, and you want to add extra DPS to shazzrah...

Unless I skipped something, there is no *!@#ing use for this weapon for any other class ! Blizzard could have written "Class: Hunter" on that one, that would have been the same.

In case you guys haven't noticed it says : +36 AP on RANGED attacks !

Kommentar von Thottbot

Obviously the guy was joking to make a point to the rogue. Of course he would not create a melee Hunter.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How rarely this actually drops, compared to some other sweet pieces of equipment? Would suck if i had to wait three months for this to drop as it is only 7.52% chance to drop, like some guilds. Hope we get lucky and get few in a row :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

going from rhok to this upped my base damage by 100. i'm constantly doing damage equal to the damage i could only do on the squishiest of targets. this is by far the best ranged weapon until naxx. to my guild it's nicknamed "crossbow of i crit you die."

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone got Idea how much aim / multi / normal shot with marksman talent ?
im getting it soon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I would never take this over my Rhok, with the 1.7 normalization I'd lose so much dps considering majority of my dps comes from Aimed and Multi shots, 1.6 DPS means nothing to me on an autoshot if I'm loosing my aimed and multi damage.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Definetly a rogue weapon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

quite simply the best ranged weapon right now. 3.4 speed 36 ap and 7 stam=better than grand marshals (simply because of the speed) freakin bad ass if you ask me

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Lets face it, warriors were definatly in mind here. Extra attack power to make up for our lack of it, sta, and good and slow for extra beefy dmg for fights like shazzrah and phase 2 ony so we can at least still do SOME damage.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

after 15-20 chromagus kills my guild managed to get one, and got outbided on it badly :( /cry want it so bad, but also thinking of the gun from imperial quraji arnaments (since i am a dwarf) but not sure witch one to take, this one got more Rap and more dmg so not sure if i gain all that dmg back on +5 gun skill :S

Kommentar von Allakhazam

WOW... talk about 2 hitting casters!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

No warrior in his right mind would take this over any other ranged weapon like heartstriker, gurubashi dwarf destroyer, strikers mark or blastershot launcher, because we just don't need ranged AP. Maybe if every hunter in our guild has it i would take it to pull with it, but as it is i'm just gonna stick with my gurubashi dwarf destroyer.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

looking at pictures ... before ... after ... before ... after ...

oh my ... night elves became ugly after 1.7 *snicker*

Kommentar von Allakhazam

wow this thing is so good,very nice upgrade from my Blastershot,and yes it uses arrows.got it last night,very hard,but fun fight with time lapse,but Prominence took him down for the 2nd time.Dropped 2 sets of pally shoulders and this.and btw a warrior will never get this untill your guild has taken him down about 20 times,so keep dreaming.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i want this so bad

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The reason I picked this amazing crossbow up is for my aimed shot rotation. With Rhok'delar, my attack speed figures down to 2.5 after quiver and attack speed glove enchant, so aimed shots eat 1/5 of an autoshot if I time it perfectly. With Ashjre'thul, my attack speed is down to 2.83--less than 1/10 of an auto shot wasted during an aimed shot. This bow increased my damage by a few percent while doing an aimed shot rotation; pretty significant for end game gear.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

HWL x-bow is better...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

rather one hitting casters tbh -_-, watch out for a shadowmelded aimed shot with that one!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Smiting pure awesomeness

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have had it for about a week now so id like to clear up what it does for me crit wise. This is durring raids of course when mobs will be fully debuffed and im at 1501 attack.

auto shot crit = 1500
multi shot crit = 1700
aimed shot crit = 2700

Multi and aimed shot dmg could be increased another few % through talents but im mostly survival and didnt get them. You will also never crit that high in PVP since you wont have the same raid buffs and debuffs running, but i get around 1200 dmg auto shot crits on cloth

Kommentar von Allakhazam

now! this is an ideal ranged weapon for a let`s see: hunter, rogue and warior! if you are on a pve server you will have this weapon long before becoming a grand marshall / high warlord, which are just a little bit better then this! best crossbow.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

been to every Chromag encounter in my guild every week. 29 kills in all and not one drop. as a Hunter, i've been saving all DKP for it when it drops. getting aggrivated cause it hasnt dropped yet.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Aimed shot cycles are the law.
This weapon is the bomb.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2006 at 6:11am EDT by Spykez

Kommentar von Allakhazam

6/8? Damnit, someone beat me :P

I've had 4/8 since for like 5 months, just got my fifth piece off razorgore last month :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Rogue weapon.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I will def be rolling 4 this on my warrior.

Can you name a weapon that will do more ranged damage than this for my warrior? No. So I will roll on it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

just got mine, loving the HUGE autoshot crits from this beast :p

Rhok shall now only be used as a backup bow for neffy :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

/sign waiting for this thing forever no drop yet dammit ><

7% drop.. doesn't seem like it :S

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I did the math. With 1300 RAP, it'll put out the following damage.

Autoshot Hits 594.6 - 678.89
Autoshot crits 1367 - 1561
Aimed Shot crits 2747 - 2941
Multi Shot Crits 1671 - 2432

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What makes this weapon so funny...is that after patch 1.7 it'll take longer to normally shoot it than set up for an aimed shot. Makes me happy...but now i have to train crossbows.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2351/graphics6qy.jpg

the skin & model sucks -.-

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wow, you'd do some major aimed shots with that :D

Edited, Tue Aug 23 11:26:27 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

well my rogue is the guilds main rogue and all of the guilds hunters in BWL didnt want it so they gave it to me and i dont have any niffty range spell and i still hit hard, well thats my say on this =)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I would love to get my hands on that LoL

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I would love to get my hands on that LoL

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i think this is the best one you can get besides the GM/HW one

Kommentar von Allakhazam

do crossbows require arrows?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

with 400 agility and a Marksman Spec the average auto hit is about 420, the average multi hit is 643, and the average aimed hit is 1020

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What a stupid typical MMORPG name for an object. It's got everything, constanants that don't belong together.. a useless apostrophe in the middle, difficult to pronounce, looks like a cat walked across the keyboard. A+

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/Higher/Crossbow.jpg

New Model in 1.7

greetings Rogal - For the Horde - EU Destromath

Edited, Wed Sep 14 11:22:48 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone have information about this bow already? Possibly a new BWL drop I guess, looks great!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped for Immortality of skullcrusher off chromaggus. Rainbows got it. He also got dragonstalker shoulders and has 6/8 tier 2. Talk about loaded.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Recently discovered on the taiwanese forums, class changes that state that there may be a ranged normalization for multi and aimed shot. Comparison with old DPS vs new DPS w/ normalization @ 2.8 speed. So yes, this xbow will be nerfed significantly to help scale with other weapons.

The First column is the rank post-normalization. Second column is the post-norm dps. Third column is pre-norm rank, and the forth is the pre-norm dps.

New DPS Old DPS Name

1 454 3 451 Huhuran's Stinger

2 454 1 473 Ashjre'thul X-bow of Smiting

3 451 6 445 Blessed Qiraji Musket

4 450 2 453 GM Xbow/Gun

5 447 5 447 Dragonbreath HC

6 445 4 448 Rhok'Delar

7 444 9 438 Heartstriker

8 436 13 430 Blastershot

9 436 7 445 Xbow of Imminent Doom

10 436 10 436 Gurubashi DD

11 435 8 443 Polished Ironwood Xbow

12 431 16 424 Mandokir's Sting

13 427 14 427 Silithid Husked Launcher

14 427 15 427 Hoodoo Hunting Bow

15 426 24 416 Striker's Mark

16 424 17 424 Crystal Slugthrower

17 420 23 417 Deep Strike Bow

18 420 18 423 DHC

19 420 28 410 CMR

20 419 22 419 ABB

21 418 27 411 Xorothian Firestick

22 418 19 421 Stoneshatter

23 416 11 432 Bloodseeker

24 415 26 412 Dark Iron Rifle

25 414 20 420 FAR

26 414 12 430 CSX

27 411 29 393 Bow of Taut Sinew

28 408 37 376 GM Bow

29 408 21 420 Blackcrow

30 407 25 416 Heartseeking Xbow

31 402 31 389 Outrider's/Outrunner's

32 397 32 384 Willey's Howitzer

33 397 33 384 Satyr's Bow

34 395 35 376 Riphook

35 392 34 378 Screeching Bow

36 390 36 376 Shell Launcher Shotgun

37 376 38 352 Eaglehorn

38 376 39 343 Hurricane

39 373 30 393 Steelarrow Xbow

40 366 40 330 Megashot Rifle

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