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Kommentar von rejemy1017

These are the Dungeon Set 1 (Tier 0) pants designed for Rogues.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hey you! Apparently you found my "worth comparison list" for some rogue gear.
The build is 30/8/13 - seal fate + imp. backstab and ambush.

Please note, that these apply only for me. This are no absolute values of any kind!
These values are how I counted the worth for the stuff listed...

AP is really valuable for backstabs and ambushes, but if you're combat builded AP shouldnt have that much worth, try counting
1% crit with 2.5p and 30 AP worth 1.5p in that case... Just my suggestion!

40 stamina = 5p
30 agility = 5p
+1% crit = 2p
+2% dodge = 1p
+30 AP = 2p

+1% hit = 1p
Resistances = 0.25p per 10
+Weapon Skills = Counted only as +% Crit - aye, they raise +% hit/dmg to higher level targets as well, but since there's
no exact confirmation how much...

CHESTS

Shadowcraft Tunic = 5.958p
+26 Agility = 4.333p
+13 Stamina = 1.625p
+12 Spirit = 0p

Tombstone armor = 5.517p
+4 Strength = 0.267p
+10 Stamina = 1.250p
+2% crit = 4p

Nightbrace tunic = 5.916p
+5 Agility = 0.833p
+10 Stamina = 1.250op
+10 Fire Res = 0.25p
+10 Shadow Res = 0.25p
+50 AP = 3.333p

--> Shadowcraft Tunic pwns!

WAIST

Frostbite Girdle = 4.958p
+5 Strength = 0.333p
+15 Agility = 2.5p
+15 Stamina = 1.875p
+10 Frost Res = 0.25p

Mugger's Belt = 4.4p
+16 Stamina = 2p
+1.2% crit = 2.4p
(+5 daggers -> +0.2%)

Vosh'Gajin's Strand = 3.85p
+9 Strength = 0.6p
+6 Stamina = 0.75p
+1% crit = 2p
+1% dodge = 0.5p

Shadowcraft Belt = 4.183p
+9 Strength = 0.6p
+14 Agility = 2.33p
+10 Stamina = 1.25p

--> Frostbite Girlde 4tw!

BOOTS

Mongoose Boots = 4.958p
+23 Agility = 3.833p
+9 Stamina = 1.125p

Ash Covered Boots = 4.291p
+13 Agility = 2.166p
+13 Stamina = 1.625p
+1% dodge = 0.5p

Pads of the Dread Wolf = 4.416p
+14 Stamina = 1.75p
+40 AP = 2.66p

Shadowcraft Boots = 4.625p
+21 Agility = 3.5p
+9 Stamina = 1.125p

--> Mongoose Boots wins!

HEADS

Eye of Rend = 5.741p
+13 Strength = 0.866p
+7 Stamina = 0.875p
+2% Crit = 4p

Shadowcraft Cap = 6.449p
+13 Strength = 0.866p
+20 Agility = 3.333p
+18 Stamina = 2.250p

Mask of the Unforgiven = 5.5p
+12 Stamina = 1.5p
+1% Crit = 2p
+2% Hit = 2p

--> Shadowcraft Cap pwns!

LEGS

Blademaster Leggings = 4.833p
+5 Agility = 0.833p
+1% Crit = 2p
+1% Hit = 1p
+2% dodge = 1p

Shadowcraft Leggings = 6.466p
+12 Strength = 0.8p
+25 Agility = 4.166p
+12 Stamina = 1.5p

Plaguehound Leggings = 6.75p
+30 Agility = 5p
+6 Stamina = 0.75p
+1% Hit = 1p

Devilsaur Leggings = 6.56p (7.56p)
+12 Stamina = 1.5p
+1% Crit = 2p
+46 AP = 3.06p
(With Gloves +2% hit = +1p)

--> Plaguehound Leggings 4tw, unless you've Devilsaur on your hands with Devilsaur legs

GLOVES

Gargoyle Slashers = 4.999p
+10 Strength = 0.666p
+5 Agility = 0.833p
+12 Stamina = 1.5p
+1% Crit = 2p

Shadowcraft Gloves = 4.055p
+9 Strength = 0.6p
+14 Agility = 2.33p
+9 Stamina = 1.125p

Devilsaur Gloves = 4.991p (5.991p with Devilsaur Leggings)
+9 Stamina = 1.125p
+28 AP = 1.866p
+1% Crit = 2p
(+2% hit with legs = +1p to both if using em)

Doomhide Gauntlets (epic, but got these, so checking value) = 7.283p
+14 Agility = 2.333p
+14 Stamina = 1.75p
+8 Fire Res = 0.2p
+8 Shadow Res = 0.2p
+42 AP = 2.8p

Devilsaur Gloves + Legs = 5.991p + 7.56p = 13.551p
Doomhide Gauntlets with Plaguehound Leggings = 7.283p + 6.75p = 14.003p
Doomhide Gauntlets with Shadowcraft Leggings = 7.283p + 6.466 = 13.749p

--> Doomhides pwn, but unless you got epic gloves/legs -> use devilsaur!

Kommentar von Thottbot

SHOULDERS

Wyrmtongue Shoulders = 5.083p
+23 Agility = 3.833p
+10 Stamina = 1.25p

Truestrike Shoulders = 3.6p
+2% Hit = 2p
+24 AP = 1.6p

Stormshroud Shoulders = 3.75p
+10 Stamina = 1.25p
+1% Crit = 2p
+1% Dodge = 0.5p

Shadowcraft Shoulders = 4.916p
+22 Agility = 3.666p
+9 Stamina = 1.125p

--> Wyrmtongue Shoulders 4tw!

WRISTS

Blackmist Armguards = 2.875p
+13 Stamina = 1.625p
+5 Spirit = 0p
+10 Shadow Res = 0.25p
+1% Hit = 1p

PvP Rank 5 Wrists = 3.291p
+17 Stamina = 2.125p
+7 Agility = 1.166p

Bracers of the Eclipse = 4.391p
+10 Agility = 1.666p
+9 Stamina = 1.125p
+24 AP = 1.6p

Shadowcraft Bracers = 3.375p
+15 Agility = 2.5p
+7 Stamina = 0.875p

--> Bracers of the Eclipse 4tw!

Guess does it eat me that I've DISENCHANTED:
- Bracers of the Eclipse
- Shadowcraft Boots
- Wyrmtongue Shoulders

:D

In my case, I could use 7 parts of Shadowcraft (since my epic gloves I wont change)
Shadowcraft Set Bonus with 7 is worth 4.66p
+1.08% Crit = 2.16p
(+2 daggers)
+1% Dodge = 0.5p
+1% Crit = 2p
+2% Hit = 2p

3.375p + 4.916p + 4.055p + 5.958p + 4.183p + 4.625p + 4.66p bonus
= 38.221p

Best 7 rares solely, bracered value shows the worth bonus compared to same slot Shadowcraft item.

Bracers of the Eclipse = 4.391p (Shadowcraft Bracers = 3.375p -> -1.016p)
Wyrmtongue Shoulders = 5.083p (Shadowcraft Shoulders = 4.916p -> -0.167p)
LEGS: 1) Plaguehound Leggings = 6.75p (as rare as epics) (Shadowcraft Legs = 6.466p -> -0.284p)
LEGS: 2) Devilsaur Leggings = 6.56p (7.56p with gloves)
LEGS: 3) Shadowcraft Leggings = 6.466p
Mongoose Boots = 4.958p (Shadowcraft Boots = 4.625p -> -0.333p)
Frostbite Girdle = 4.958p (Shadowcraft Belt = 4.183p -> -0.775p)
Shadowcraft Tunic = 5.958p - best piece
Shadowcraft Cap = 6.449p - best piece

Negative value from shadowcraft items compared to best rares total = 1.016 + 0.167 + 0.284 + 0.333 + 0.775 = 2.575p
Shadowcraft Bonus from 7 items = 4.66p

Shadowcraft vs Rares = +2.085 to Shadowcraft

Conclusion: It surpriced me that shadowcraft is that good set for a dagger rogue, mostly because tunic, cap and legs are
really great items solely. Shadowcraft Boots nor shoulders arent bad either, but the bracers + belt I wouldnt use without
the set bonus. (if you wont get the 6 item bonus, dont use those)

Hope this helps someone. Burned couple hours at work doing this research. :)

Yours,
Damien (EU-Bloodscalp)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I officially hate you. I've lost track of how many Baron Runs I've attended. I've never seen the Bonescrapper, the SC Pants, or his mount drop and I have always lost the rolls on the Skullforge Reaver and his cape.

I have a friend that got his Beaststalker leggings after 55 Baron runs, and he did countless runs before he started counting.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Here's a piece of (obvious) advice for druids who want to roll on this stuff. Tell people at the start of the run that you will be rolling on shadowcraft (or other "rogue" gear that drops like cape of black baron/stoneskin gargoyle/ whatever), and ensure that the raid leader agrees. If they dont want you to roll on it, don't do the run. Simple way of stopping any fights before they happen, and if anyone sulks afterwards you can just say "we agreed to this at the start".

*edit: imho the Wildheart Kilt is a better pvp option for feral druids - you lose a bit of agility (13 less), but gain 1 stamina and a lot of mana using Wildheart. I'd say these leggings are only better for pve where you intend to stay in cat form.

Kommentar von Thottbot

great pants for my lvl 58 rogue better than my wanderers pants of the monkey.

Kommentar von Thottbot

got them as druid 54 :P
my 1st druid run at baron, was 2nd healer, rogue already had these, so i could need.
happy feral druid.
gonna continue farming devilsaurs to match the gloves i made with a pair of panties, i love %hit too much.

Kommentar von Thottbot

these pants dropped in like my 10th run
and i got 4 parts atm... really really wanted them and a DRUID outrolled me...
funny thing the ninja allways win -.-

Kommentar von Thottbot

i got the pants today with an awsome group. Did it with a 10 man raid and not every1 was lvl 60. Not only did the pants drop but Bonescraper (dagger) dropped also. The group let me have both :). Killer day it was for me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i have killed the baron 32 times now and i have 3 bonescrapers, 2 reavers and his cape but no pants, not once in 32 runs did the sc pants drop

Kommentar von Thottbot

I did 10 runs and got them! I already have his Cape and bonescraper but i mostly wanted this pants and today i got them. i also got to lvl 60 today! boom baby.

Kommentar von Thottbot

my bad i mis read 40 runs is pretty bad not as bad as 49 though

Kommentar von Thottbot

Did a 5 man strat, we wiped a few times, but we made it to the Baron and he dropped these pants and Skullforge Reaver. I was only rogue in group, passed on the sword because I am a dagger rogue.

Damn lucky. =)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ran it the first time and these dropped. Two rogues rolled and I (feral druid) rolled. I won while there other two got rolls below 10. After thinking about it, I really shoulda passed to the Rogues even though they are great for feral. The way I see it, is that Rogues can't really use Wildheart set and this set is really meant for Rogues and these are really rare drop.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got these on my second Stratholme Undead side, both which were on the same night. I leveled to 59 on the Scarlet Stratholme side that was sandwiched in between the two (no Spaulders). The Baron has not dropped the cape either time.

So far, that's 6 pieces.

1st: Belt. Purchased - 120 gold.
2nd: Boots. 5 man Scholomance that fell apart shortly after Rattlegore (first run).
3rd: Cap. 10 man Scholomance (first raid).
4th: Gloves. First LBRS raid (damn was it long, as no one knew where in the hell we were going).
5th: Bracers. Purchased - 100 gold.
6th: Pants. 10 man UD Strat (second raid).

I think I'll run Live Stratholme until Willy gives me my %^&* (two kills so far), then head on to UBRS to beat my Tunic out of Drakk.

Kommentar von Thottbot

shadowcraft isnt worth the trouble/gold it takes to get 8/8

Kommentar von Thottbot

ive run baron over 35 times..ive seen everything INCLUDING the mount and i still havent seen the damn legs...well gonna try hard over easter brake :P week off work.....btw please if your a druid and you want this make sure the rogue in your group has this...im a 60 rogue and have lost many of my SC items to druids...i didnt complain and i still got the items but i had to run everything double. and now that you can trade in the reg. sets for better..its just better to get wildheart because it has stats for ferel and resto

Kommentar von Thottbot

YA OK ive been on about 50 runs never seen them drop its really making think about doing something else with my life....

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have never purposely farmed Argent Dawn reputation.
With that having been said, I'm 3/4 to exhaulted from
trying for the shadowcraft set. GEEZ c'mon blizz.

Kommentar von Thottbot

THE ONLY pants i have seen any where near as good for rogues, is the triprunner leggings taht ally get off a quest for gnomergan, +18 agi is hard to top, even at lvl 42 i was trying to find better, and a friend who ahs just got these pants was using the triprunner leggings up to lvl 51!

so any one so lucky enough (or a great ninja) to have these pants, should pretty much kinda kick ass...btw...nxt time you kill a horde taht got the first hit on you, and u r a rogue, use /e pisses on "name of victim"'s dead corpse as it rlly pisses em off if and when they can understand, and, makes the ally laugh, i got a lvl 60 to take me trhu sm cos i got attacked and ripped @#$% outa sum undead mage :D any one on executus realm eu, /w ayam� pwetty plz

Kommentar von Thottbot

OMG, I've been doin' 40 runs at this moment, and god dammit it won't drop.

But items with lower drop rate ALWAYS drops... someone tell me, what is wrong?

/Steilz

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got these on my first Strat run last night.

Kommentar von Thottbot

hey druid let me explain something to you ok ... these pants, were put into the game, for rogues ... notice if u go on the website ... this is the ROGUE tier 0, a druid does not have 0 priority to a rogue on Shadowcraft, you are a freaking idiot, if there are no rogues, then yea, go right ahead, but seeing as they are the ROGUE TIER 0, you are obviously not very bright in saying that they deserve this gear as much as rogues do, idiot

Kommentar von Thottbot

Have killed Baron 8 times and no SC legs yet. I'm sure they'll drop soon. I agree that ShadowCraft items should default to Rogues. I have lost quite a few rolls to Druids who thought they were rogues. But hey, Druids rock, just don't try to steal that SC from me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

...and no drop. Hopefully the drop next time.

And Bonescraper dropped, and the $%^&en *!@#$%^ need onnit. And outrolls me! Hunters use it as a trinket, im depending on it for poison procs. How can u play this game for 60 $%^&ing lvls and dont realise that?

Kommentar von Thottbot

These items should go to the rogue in a group. We need these to upgrade our sets. A druid certainly wont be able to upgrade these by any means. So druids plz stop being ninja's when it comes to rogue pieces for OUR sets. You have a set it is called Wildheart...

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm not a druid, but feral druids I don't think would go for wildheart. Priority for SC should definately go to rogues, but if a rogue already has that set piece, then I would have no problem with the druid getting it. I dont consider it ninja'ing if a druid gets a piece that a rogue has, but they shouldn't roll with a rogue. People don't really consider that wildheart is not too useful to ferals, and also can't think of a druid in SC. Those people are stupid and need to shut up. Hope this gives hope to feral druids..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

SC set.. I have gotten the whole set now after killing baron 101 times it finally dropped on me. YES! So now with full Sc set and epic dagger, and a blue i hope to get the nightslayer stuff asap.

:D Have a great day ppl

Saludos,

Daffy

Kommentar von Allakhazam

ive run him 30 times, he hasnt dropped this, skullforge reaver, or Cape of the black Baron fo rmy to lose the roll for, whats a Rogue to do?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

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Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ya just got these tonight on a guild run, was only rogue so defaulted to me need 6 levels before i can use them but ima be leveling like mad.

WOOT

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is unquestionably the worst run of the 'tier 0' dungeons. While I am not personally intimidated by the Baron, many people seem to see him as much more difficult than other similarly-staged fights (Alexi Barov comes to mind, Eranikus in Sunken Temple is very difficult for level 53s, etc), and thus they avoid doing this run like the plague.

East strat is easier and shorter than scholomance, and yet people seem to hate fighting the Baron. It's been difficult to find runs to go on, and they have, of course, not dropped for me yet. Oh well, back to the grind.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

They may be the coolest looking pants I have, but they won't replace Devilsaurs for grouping. Shadowcraft solo/PvP is nice though.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

3 rogues in a group who need it when they drop...and a druid wins...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

15 runs and nothing. black baron cape droped on 15 run, maybe next one itl drop.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Leggings are more suppioror than devilsaur more then u think. 25 agility = 1% crit and around 2% dodge, 12 stam same as devilsaur, i dont know how much AP the stre gives but along with AP from agility it will probaly be equal or surpass the devilsaur, devilsaur gloves are yes, better the SC gloves but the set bonuses from shadowcraft add the 1% crit and the 2% hit, so imo full shadowcraft set is better, good all rounder and plenty of stam, agil for dodge/crit

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got it now, prob my 10th run, lvl 58 and loving it :p

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Devilsaur Gloves
Devilsaur Leggings
Nightbrace Tunic
Bracers of the Eclipse
Pads of the Dreadwolf
Frostbite Girdle
Wyrmtongue Shoulders

All waaay better than the SC part to match.

Only good thing IMO is the hood.

Edited, Fri Jun 24 12:36:47 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

they dropped on my 4th Strat run ^^ and the only other rogue in my group passed on it for me. got to love how they look and the stats are great. can't wait until i get the rest of the set. <3

Kommentar von Allakhazam

well the pants dropped for me, and i won.. but the ML gave them to a mage, i think u can guess how pissed i got..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I herd that this drops alot now.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got it on my second run.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Droped on my first :D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

my feral spec druid would love these!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Shadowcraft Armor
978 Armor
+157 Agility
+87 Stamina
+36 Spirit
+43 Strength

Increased Daggers +2.
Increases your chance to dodge an attack by 1%.
Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 1%.
Improves your chance to hit by 2%.
Increases your damage dealt with offhand attacks by 4%

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Pretty good legging's, with a nice boost of agility, did about 7 runs for it, pretty lucky I guess :).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

bout 20 runs so far and never seen em, and i need em for my last set piece >.< And my druid friend won em...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Few mins ago Daggerspine PvP went offline... In the middle of Baron fight >.< There was no warnings about server shutdown, nothing.Kinda pissed off now, i think i will write smth bad to GM.Was my first run (59 lvl) What if these would dropped? xD im really pissed off.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Finally dropped for me last night after 64 runs of no luck(Never seeing them once until lastnight)...The run went pretty fast until we got to the Baron we had to much DPS and no heals since the Durid that was the healer decided to wait till we got to the Baron to tell us he was a feral and not a resto! So after wipin' on the Baron 2 times one of the locks in the group switched to his resto durid for one last shot...I kinda felt like it was my time after seeing everyone else gear drop over and over I told my peps I'm not gonna let this one go...It felt like all of Spirestone was pulling for me since I had grouped with damn near every 60 on the server and they pretty much knew my dedication to completeing my SC...Tryin' not to think about it the whole instance my friends all sent tells gl gl gl...kinda hard not to think about it when everyone does that(-_-)...I'm sure u guys know the rest we run in with the group, The tank Dies, Resto durid battle rezzes him while I evasion tanked, Baron goes down...I close my eyes waiting for them to loot and then I hear screaming and a thousands tells of grats are sent before I could tell a soul my friend told everyone while I danced around my room like a little school girl...7/8 no more!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

looks cool but theres a loooong way to lvl 56! anyone whats th name on the thing i have to kill?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped on first baron kill for me as well as Bonescraper. Had gotten SC shoulders earlier that day~ Twas a good day indeed!

Kommentar von Stratcaster70

Shadowcraft Armor is the Dungeon Set 1. It contains 8 pieces. Has set bonuses at 2, 4, 6, and 8 pieces:

Set Bonuses
Wearing more pieces of this set will convey bonuses to your character.
2 pieces: +200 Armor.
4 pieces: +40 Attack Power.
6 pieces: Chance on melee attack to restore 35 energy.
8 pieces: +8 All Resistances.

Shadowcraft Belt—NPCs around boss Shadow Hunter Vosh'gajin, location Lower Blackrock Spire
Shadowcraft Boots—boss Rattlegore, location Scholomance
Shadowcraft Bracers—random NPCs (including location Stratholme) and boss Instructor Malicia, location Scholomance
Shadowcraft Tunic—boss General Drakkisath, location Upper Blackrock Spire
Shadowcraft Spaulders—boss Cannon Master Willey, location Stratholme
Shadowcraft Pants—boss Baron Rivendare, location Stratholme
Shadowcraft Gloves—boss Shadow Hunter Vosh'gajin, location Lower Blackrock Spire
Shadowcraft Cap—boss Darkmaster Gandling, location Scholomance

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