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Kommentar von 2338

Best hard data I've seen concerning it's proc rate

http://rogerkarlsson.com/blogs/wow/lifestealing/

Kommentar von 7968

This is an awesomely fun enchant for PVPing.

But, if you have some decent gear, and need something to grind with, I'd suggest duel-wielding two Skullforge Reavers and enchanting them with this. You'll gain so much HP as you attack that you'll have close to NO downtime.

Kommentar von 4336

You can get this solo as a rogue by sneaking in and killing the spectral researchers. I did it on my lvl 60 with average gear, and i havent been raiding with him. I used some pots like winterfall firewater and instant poisons.

You can stealth all the way and avoid all the other mobs. Jump down from the bridge at the beginning where the 4 skeletons are. Open the doors and stealth all the way around to the room where the spectral researchers are. Be sure to wait for the patrols. When you finally get to the room, the easiest one to kill is under the stairs. Theres another one patrolling but its harder to kill without aggroing other mobs.

It took me about 10 runs to get the formula. It was worth it.

Kommentar von 1497

Although this enchant is fun, it's really not worth the mats. I'd suggest the CRUSADER enchant (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/spell=20034) instead. It heals for 100 (lifestealing is only compbined of 30 + 30 = 60), and it grants 100 strength, which does more than 30 more damage (not per hit, but per proc).

And it's cheaper.

Kommentar von 10048

This is a great enchant for any class. Obviously better for some than others. What seemed the most useful to do though is to enchant a my main hand weapon with cruisader, then go for life stealing on the hand.

The lack of down time is great. Pvp action even better.

Kommentar von frmrpreztaft

While crusader may heal you for more and give a strength proc, lifestealing procs CONSTANTLY. I barely go more than 3-4 swings without a lifesteal.

It's really a matter of personal preference. Lifesteal on twink rogues at 29 or 39 is brutal, because it also damages your target.

Kommentar von 10215

One of the rarest enchants in game, took me about 160 Scholo runs to get it - and it dropped from the very last ghost that run. One I'd even forget about, unless a friend didn't point out that we didn't kill one under the stairs. Tough luck! :) Basy @ Hellscream EU, Alliance side.

Kommentar von 27334

Glow Color: Purple
Glow Form: Cloudy

Kommentar von 9596

I have found that these only drop off of the LVL 60 Spectral Researchers. I have never gotten the drop off of any other level since I started grinding Scholo, and I have gotten about 10 of them.

Kommentar von 25685

I think that the drop rate must have increased recently because I picked up 4 of these in 4 straight runs soloing scholo for gold. I just gave them away to guildies. These shouldn't sell for 400G given the drop rate and the fact that there are much better high level enchants.

Kommentar von 38717

Just bought this in AH for 20g :) usually sells for 200-400g on Gilneas

Kommentar von 44033

really easy to farm and sell on ah for a decent amount. first one sold for 250 and the 2nd for 280 on my server. But i dont recommend farming these constantly since they aren't bought to often (takes me a couple days to sell one).

Kommentar von Thottbot

Did a parsing with this as a test :
Subject : Level 60 rogue
Weapons :
Heartseeker w/ Crusader (mainhand)
vs.
Heartseeker w/ Lifestealing (mainhand)

(no offhand weapon )

In 3 separate tries vs. lvl 55-56 mobs for 10 minutes per trial,

Total damage w/ Crusader enchant was more

Total healing w/ Crusader enchant was more

Proc rates were about the same, with crusader being 1.8% lower than lifesteal in how-often it proc'd, but even with this lower rate it healed more and contributed more to overall damage than the lifestealing enchant.

Glad we did the lifestealing test first, so when crusader turned out to be considerably better we didn't have to re-enchant again ;P

Kommentar von Thottbot

This does not place a dot on the target. It is an istant 30 damage 30 heal. It can be partially resisted. It can be entirely resisted. It has a better proc rate than crusader. However, crusader cannot be resisted.

Again, this DOES NOT put a debuff on the target. I don't know where people got the idea that it does.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does having a +damage to shadow spells have any effect on this or other shadow-based procs?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have this enchant on both of my weapons. I'm a swords specced Rogue and I am also an enchanter who has learned the formula. I can honestly say that i prefer this enchant to crusader as a rogue. Firstly lifestealing has a proc of something like... 25%. I would say it procs 4-5 times per fight meaning it does 120-150 damage and heals you for 120-150 life on average. It's a great boost in DPS and it also helps your survivability.

The reason I'm not big on Crusader is because it gives a boost in strength. Strength, I find does not help nearly as much as agility which is why i wouldn't bother wasting my money on it again. It heals for approximate the same amount as lifestealing would if it procced during a fight, but the proc rate is far lower than that of lifestealing and so you can't count on it as much.

If you compare lifestealing to +5 dmg on 1h weapon, we can see that lifestealing is superior. 25% chance to proc means 1 of every 4 hits on average is a proc. +5 dmg means you need 6 hits to do 30 damage and lifestealing means you need 4 hits (on average) to do the same damage. And as a bonus it heals you.

As a rogue in an instance, dual lifestealing enchant and dual instant poison on weapons or dense sharpening stones means a hell of a lot of damage.

As for a twinker, the 30 damage / healing boost is huge since lower levels have much lower health than level 60s. And since low levels do not have many talent points at their disposal to upgrade their skills, this will make all the difference.

There is a reason why this formula is blue and crusader is green. Think about it. If you are interested, send me an in game mail. Name: Citizen. Server: Eredar. I charge 5g and you bring the mats.

Kommentar von Thottbot

dropped last night in a three man group early in scholo. being only enchanter i got it. also got a nexus crystal from DE'ing lordly armguards off the herald. good fun all in all. im on arathor if anyone wants it. look up edmundsbain

Kommentar von Thottbot

It steals 30 hp. It procs a lot, 6 times more than crusader from what ive heard. Curse of shadows and locks shadowboltcrit affects the dmg. It is best for sword rogues (dagger rogues should enchant 5 dmg on mainhand and 15 agi on off, for warriors crusader is much better) I got it on my vis'kag and it owns.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If there is anyone that still doesn't know about procing of this baby!

Let's take 1.9 AS sword, and 3,8 2H axe for an example. As this is 6 procs per min on average, u get 6PPM regardles of weapon speed. I don't know why you should go after 1.3 daggers? Ok, with 1.9 hit 31 times in 1min (if none are dodged/parried/missed/bloceked), with 3.8 u hit 16 times. With fast one it proces on every 5 hit (average), where on slow one it proces every 2 or 3 hits.

Here's the table for easier understanding.

1.9AS ....0....0....0....0....0....0. (31 hits in 1min)

3.8AS . . 0 . o . . 0 . . o . o . . o (16 hits in 1min)

. = hit
0 = LS proc

Hope i wrote it in the way, so even the noobest players can get it :) Ow corect me if i'm wrong.

I have spoken

Kommentar von Thottbot

Crusader has a proc rate of 1 Proc Per Minute
Crusaders heals for 75-125, therefore 100 average.
That means you will have an average heal of 100 per 60 seconds.

Therefore, crusader has 1.66 Healing per Second.

Crusader also increases Strength by 100 on average once per minute, giving Rogues a 1.66 Damage Per Second boost as well.

Also, the damage benefit of Crusader is also mitigated by armor, resulting in damage returns of even less than this.

Lifestealing, on the other hand, as a proc rate of 6 Procs Per Minute. Each time it does proc, it heals you for 30 and does 30 damage.
So, 6(PPM) x 30(Damage)= 180 Damage Per Minute.
Divide that by 60(seconds in a minute), and you get 3 DPS. Almost twice that of Crusader.
This same formula applies to the healing aspect of Lifestealing, giving you 3 HPS as opposed to Crusader's 1.66.

In summation,
LS= 3 DPS, 3 HPS,
Crusader= 1.66 Dps, 1.66 HPS

However, Lifestealing can be resisted, and some do prefer the slightly higher burst damage of Crusader over the sustained higher benefits of Lifestealing.

All in all, I prefer Lifestealing to Crusader for a Rogue any day of the week.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where can you find this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1437613

Kommentar von Allakhazam

got this first kill. i got the crusader formula first kill like less then 15 min before and i was planning on farming the lifestealing formula. i needed food and a mage offered me some in hearthglen. i headed up that way and on my way back aggroed a scarlet spellbinder and it dropped. then i went ot scholo and stealthed to the first gate, opened it and aggroed the skeletons and vanished. went down into a little area that had 1 spectral researcher, killed it with ease and it dropped. finally getting 150 riding for me alt

Kommentar von Allakhazam

does lifestealings heal bonus get boosted by +healing effect like the assassination spec for rogues or for gear like druid gear

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Does anyone have a picture of this enchant on a weapon? I hear its purple but I'd like to see how it looks

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What is the proc rate of this enchant? I have heard 20%...

TIA
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Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well, it dropped on the first spectral researcher we killed in my 5 man group today, I was the only enchanter in group, and a paladin rolled on it and won it. Though we'd agreed that whoever needs an item that falls will get it, he took it and then left party to sell it in AH....

Edited, Tue Jun 21 01:05:50 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Yay! I got this one in Scholomance on a random mob kill. The group let me keep it - without even needing to roll on it! If you're on Cenarion Circle and would like the enchantment done, mail Goofi : )

Edited, Thu Nov 24 07:36:43 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What's the best for my lvl 19 PvP char:
2x Crusader
1x Crusader and 1x Lifestealing
2x Lifestealing

?

And plz bring some arguments with ya ;)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

send a mail to dulce to arrange for it

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can do this on brozebeard horde side

i used it on myself on a slow weapon, HIGHLY woudlnt recommend doing it on a slower weapon, since theres a higher chance of stealing life with a faster 1 hand weapon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got this from a Spectral researcher in Scholo.... the procs seem to be great for end game alliances... but i cant see how one or a couple of players could justify the expenditure to have it on their chars... I am a rogue and as soon as i got it wanted to sell it to the nearest.... lol my alliance guys... that way all the mats are covered by a load of players and the enchant can be smacked on to a load of beneficiaries... thru guild bank (BTW 500g lol)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I decided to farm this, it dropped off second researcher first run solo, then the second run it dropped again off same guy, later with a buddy it dropped two times in a row as well of the same guy but diferent from earlier... 4 drops in one day WTF?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

update on this formula took a friend into scholo to get formula must have done room 40 times no drop think it has been changed

Kommentar von Allakhazam

First of all...this enchanting form is damn near impossible to get. I've been trying to get it for weeks now, only 6 Spectral Researchers in Scholomance, so not many chances to get one to drop unless you convince a group to just keep resetting the instance.

Secondly, this enchant is best for Rogues. Duel wielding daggers, both with this enchant, and a proc % of like 30-35% for 30-35 health per proc (PER DAGGER), makes this very Rogue friendly.

The key to this enchant is SPEED. I've tested Crusader and for dagger using Rogues, I would say add Lifestealing to both and you will be very pleased with it. IF you can find someone on your server with the formula.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is the drop rate influenced by whether ur in a raid group or not? my guild is tryin to get this enchant and we've been resetting the instances and killing these punks for weeks... should we be doin it five man?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just a thought i'm interested in getting this for my rogue. If you have a fast weapon that swings 2 times faster then a slow weapon. Wouldnt you have 2 "chances" for the proc to hit compared to 1 "chance" on the slow weapon. Procs hit on percentages right. so lets say its a 5% proc rate on lifestealing. the fast weapon would get 2 swings that each have a 5 % chance to proc. the slow weapon would get 1 hit in with the same 5% chance. So it seems if the proc has no memory and always has the same chance to proc on each and every swing. If you swing more times in a fight you have more chances for it to go off then someone who only swings a few times. <<< or like some people on this page were saying .... will a slower weapon be giving some special higher proc rate because of it being slower or do all weapon speeds share the same percent to proc chance. i've tested with fiery plenty of times and the more hits you could get in the more times it would go off because you had that many more chances for it to proc. so does this mean a 5 % proc rate in a fight that has 10 swings will proc more times then a fight with a 5% proc rate with 5 swings

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I looted it while farming with my brother 60 mage, he is an enchanter but we are planning to sell it :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Darkspear (H)

Whisper Szpirglas or Katrn

Kommentar von Allakhazam

someone sold this enchant for 50g on Burning Blade, quite cheap, she made at least 600g in 5 mins
i took it myself but i don't think it was worth it now. I put it on a polearm, wich may have been a mistake as it's a slow weapon.
It procs maybe every 3th-4th strike and 30 ain't much when the enemy hits you for 100-200...
As a hunter i'm dead before i can hit that rogue

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Granted Blizzard basically nerfed Crusader, Icy, and Lifestealing in the last patch (2.0.3) when used on characters over level 60, but I still got it for a dang good deal.

99g.

Still unsure as to whether I'll sell it for a huge profit or learn it and sell the enchant myself.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Has anyone else noticed a sharp drop in price for this on their server? The average price on my server for this was 700g. Now they're selling for 300g...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Level 300 enchanting

Requires:
6 x Brilliant Shard
6 x Essence of Undeath
6 x Living Essence

When it procs it does 30 dmg and heals you for 30

Procs often.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

what are the mats for this enchant, i'm kinda stupid cuz i can't find em...lol...and i want em for my lvl 19 twink, cuz my friend did and he never died(wish i could've seen it)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Secondly, this enchant is best for Rogues.

The key to this enchant is SPEED.

This isnt Diablo where proc kicksin every single hit u land, in fact the slower the weapon higher the chance it will kick in, for example if u use slow @ss weapon like Arcanite Reaper it will kick in almost every hit.
P.S. Blizzard isn't that dumb to make enchant that will win for you.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Some fool on Stormrage Euro has been trying to sell this for 1200G for almost a month now, he doesn't even have a clue why it's not selling..

Why god, why? Why do only retards get the extremely rare items?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My scholo PUG yesterday picked up not one but TWO, and we barely got past the researcher, and they're on the AH for only around 100. Allahkaz really needs to update their stuff.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is godlike for shamans. At lvl 60 you should atleast have enough items to give you +100 to healing spells and effects. That means this will heal you for ~130 per hit (or more). Best enchant in game!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have a lvl 49 shaman and recently got a flurry axe and use wind fury so I was wondering if this would be better than crusader since it procs more often and I attack really fast and anyone on Bloodhoof horde side can do this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Zion, I'm on Daggerspine, but if I'm not mistaken you're horde... which makes it just a bit tough :P And there's also the thing about how I quit a week ago. Anyways, person I gave my account to spent 400g on this recipe O_o so I suppose the character Corber has it now...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can do this enchant on Terenas, alliance side. /w me in-game and we can arrange it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

HOLY COW! SRY FOR THE SECOND POST IN A ROW

LIFESTEALING PROCS EVEN ON INSTANT ATTACKS! Yes its true ! Dump that sh!y crusader if u can now

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can do this enchant on Vek'Nilash -> Horde Server 100 - 110 G per weapon, depending on market value of materials that day/night....

send a tell to Mithran or Pheobé If u get Pheobé tell me Wife to log in Mithran and meet u in either UC or Orgrimmar

Kommentar von Allakhazam

dropped today on skullcrusher from ghost in first room in scholomance i won it with rolling and put in on ah for 500/650

Kommentar von Allakhazam

won it on roll, im BS so i dont have any use of this (exept money)... going to AH need money so i will put it for cheap (150-200g) Ragnaros realm,allinace- my alt Spartanac =)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Darksorrow server
Horde Side
/w Vit

i got it from the AH for 130g :>

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Thanks for the good intel on this i solo farmed the first room four times and got six of elemental, codex: prayer of shadow protection then a bunch of greens and finally the lifestealing recipe. the first two clearings i wasted a lot of time seems u only get one blue in the room so if u get one leave and reset and start again

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can do this on Shadow Council, Alliance side. Just drop Teirm a mail in game.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Solo-farmed for an estimated 2 days -1 day and half for two days.- Didn't drop. Stopped for a week or two, and went again when I was done helping my friend. Dropped in near an hour.

Edited, Sep 12th 2006 at 8:19pm EDT by muffinlolz

Kommentar von Allakhazam

rofl got it first kill solo!

hunter for life <3

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have the formula for sale on Scarshield Legion server. If you are intrested /w Annda, and if i am not online, send me an email. I am selling for it's median price - 600g

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone know the range of stolen life for this effect? Is it percentage based or a fixed range?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I sometimes wonder why things like this aren't classified as Rare. One in 150 chance to drop on one of only six mobs in one instance...

Edited, Tue Jul 5 12:22:36 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Fate of Gorgonnash(alliance) is selling this enchant. Whisper him in-game or drop him a mail if you are interested

Kommentar von Allakhazam

got it for 25g on llane ah buy out. i understand that its nerfed but selling it for 25g is just idiotic. i did a double take when i saw it. i got crusader for 80 a couple of days ago. price of crusader has crawled back up to over 100g on bid. lifestealing is worth more, so i'm guessing it'll prolly settle at atleast 150-200g. hehehe 25g....hope i don't feel stupid spending that much and it ends up being like 2g in a week.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If your going to pay a lot for the enchant, it's not worth it. Decent glow, procs well, when it does proc 40 health is not much. Crusader is way more worth it then this.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Does this stack with the Skullforge Reavers lifesteal?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This enchant would be interesting on Gespenstersense

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I buy it off a guy shouting for 135g on the night the Dark Portal opened, bargain, I think.
Then I come on here and find out it's been nerfed, managed to get 150g for it, probably off someone who had the same idea as me, poor bugger.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Enter Scholo... kill all Spectral Researchers in first room... if Lifestealing doesnt drop, repeat... you'll get it. Pretty easy if you have a 60+ LVL character. I took my rogue and it dropped two times in five runs... I laughed at all of the times I'd seen it drop in a party and inevitably it was ninjaed some kinda way.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am looking for a lifestealing enchant on my twink rogue...on weapon: shadowfang

i have all mats

pst:

iluvfuturama

or

panar

on laughing skull server

Kommentar von Allakhazam

anyone on Daggerspine who can enchant this? pm Zion, im really interested.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

WTB this on Deathwing Alliance Side. Whisper Rathrora in game or drop me a mail plz. TY =D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The mats are:
6x Essence of Undeath
6x Large Brillant Shard
6x Living Essence

Kommentar von Allakhazam

im lvl 19 rogue twink and assassins blade with crusader ench main hand and cruel barb offhand should i emchant the off hand sword with fiery weapon or lifestealing?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Also sold mine for 600g but now I'm thinking I wish I kept it. I probably would have made a great deal of money with the Burning crusade coming out soon and the influx of new weapons and people wanting new enchants on them. I can imagine a slew of new Blood elf rogues hitting the servers, I plan on playing one myself. I'd imagine the enchant sells well on PvP servers as well.

Oh well, I'm at 282 in enchanting, guess I'll have to be happy with doing crusader enchants when I reach 300.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This has dropped for me in Scholo 3 times in two days. It's nuts.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

As a LvL 70 Fistweapon rogue .. should i get this crusader on Mh?

or is +15 agil mh / oh better?

Edited, Apr 9th 2007 10:43am by mordekaii

Kommentar von Allakhazam

just how much is the reduction to this after 60? whats it hitting for now?

Edited, May 3rd 2007 2:57am by Shadriel

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I tested Lifesteal in MC today. To see if I wanted it or Crusader. Anyway. All the fire mobs were immune to it and by immune I mean it never procd at all against the fire elemental model type mobs. Fire Lords, Flamewalkers, Fireguards and Geddon. No procs at all vs any of them.

H

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Grzmocik EU Burning Legion Alli

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How often does this proc? Im gonna be putting it on 2 cruel barbs which I will be duel weilding at lvl 19. Will this be insane?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Farmed two of these in half an hour solo. And a lifestone. 30 minutes later I got Polished Obsidian Pauldrons from AQ Ayamiss trash. Lucky night.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i was farming this today and instead of getting this to drop i got Skullflame shield dropped sold for 250G

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Farmed the Spectral Researcher room 3 man with some friends about 20 times before it dropped. They had killed about 300 prior to our organized effort. .96% drop chance is a little off.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Farming the Blood Steward with a mage and a pally. Totally forgot about this enchant, we were just killing the Risan Guards for Bone Fragments and money. There is 3 researchers you can pull and kill on one reset of instance. I kept the enchant and learned it, but I want on a differnt toon. I read that the proc doesn't go off but 30% of the time. Of course, the Pally I play with is my RL girl friend, so she wants enchant on a Destiny. Is it worth it? It would be replacing an Icy enchant, so it must be better than that, but Destiny is slow. Anyone have this on a two handed weapon that likes it? Or should we just go with Crusader?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I did 4 runs solo for this enchantment and got it each time! lvl 70 NE Hunter!

Drop rate is awsome

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can do this enchant on the Horde side of Perenold

-Bonaner
-60 hunter <Relentless Souls>
-Perendolde Horde side

Kommentar von Allakhazam

As of patch 1.10 life stealing deals Shadow Damage.

Its useable now in MC and BOY DOES IT GO OFF LIKE CRAZY !~~~~I used to love crusader and then even +5 Dmg ! But heck i want to pvp as well . If you think crusader procs alot wait till u get this lil beauty.Life stealing not only does 30 DMG it heals u for 30 Life as well.I cant stop praising this enchant .In MC even with the best healers the MTs have priority , with the healing i got I was actually dealing more dmg over time and I dont have to use as much pots as other rogues who were noticeably dieing alot more

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This dropped twice in the same Scholo run...luckey me I got one : )

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So, I farmed 5g, one green, and two grey items looking for this enchant, now that the droprate has been 'increased'.
I have the worst luck ever with drops. :(

Kommentar von Xafi

I made between 300-400 attempts, drop 1 times

Kommentar von Thope

Need to take into account in pvp/lowhpmobs/fastkills that you may not benefit from the 100strength after having the enchant proc. The LS dmg is instant and does not require an "open" window that may take some time attacking to see the Crus dmg become higher overall. Especially seeing a lower proc rate with crusader the chances get smaller to benefit.

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