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Kommentar von 4130

I think Blizzard changed the weapon skill mechanic just so a level 44 BOE mail epic wouldn't be the ultimate end-game item for fury warriors any more.

I found it rather amusing, but I guess that's just me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The bonuses afforded by these gloves apply only to the one-handed variety of weapons, i.e. one-handed axe, one-handed sword, etc.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Not that bad for a fury spec warrior, really (apart from the mail AC). My warrior screw-around alt will be dual-wielding axes or swords indefinitely, so another level and a half of weapon skill on either would certainly do some good for grinding out XP against higher level mobs.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I love how I'm sitting here reading about the best dual wielding fury warriors DPS gloves in the game and people are DEing them and selling them for insanely low.

Idealy IIRC for best results in raid DPS for dual wielding you need +15 to weaponskill or so and no more then 19% crit + 1% for every +1% to hit on your gear

to an extent, theres also some signs of a soft crit cap due to glancing blows being uncrittable hence the desire for + weapon skill as it seems only weaponskill actually reduces the frequency of glancing blows

Kommentar von Thottbot

This blurb from the WOW Wiki - Calculations and Formulas. http://www.wowwiki.com/

Each point of weapon skill you have over your opponent's increases your chances to crit and hit by 0.04%, and reduces your opponent's chance to block, parry, and dodge by 0.04%. Effectively you can consider it to be the inverse of the defense skill.

In addition, against mobs that are two or more levels above you, you will have a chance to land a glancing blow instead of a normal hit. A glancing blow may not crit and has a damage reduction proportional to the weapon skill to defense difference. Weapon skill reduces the severity of the damage reduction, not your chance to land a glancing blow.

For example, against mobs three levels above your own, with 300 weapon skill approximately 40% of your swings will be glancing blows, and the damage for those will on average be reduced by 30%. With +5 weapon skill, you will see the same amount of glancing blows (40%), but only 15% damage reduction. With +10 weapon skill, the damage reduction becomes negligible.

Kommentar von Thottbot

...figured since they were purple I'd get a nexus crystal...NOPE. 2x Radiant shard.

<_<

>_>

0_o

Noobed. >_<

...may you avoid the same mistake I made.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Actually... Edgemaster's handguards are by FAR, EXTREMELY FAR, the best PvE raiding gloves. It's about 4 time stronger than gauntlets of annihilation.
you gain about 10% more dmg...
click here for more info

Kommentar von Thottbot

.. this is actually quite good for DW Fury.

Human racial +5. Maladath +4, Edgemaster +7 = 316 1H Swordskill

Then go get yourself an AQR/CTS + Maladath.

FTW

Kommentar von Thottbot

For bosses and level 63+ mobs, these are the best DPS gloves in the game for Warriors, period. Nothing else even comes remotely close.

It's funny that two years after release, people still don't see the value in +weapon skill. In my previous guild, I was the MT and was trying to extol the virtues of +weapon skill to the DPS Warriors in my guild, especially by grabbing a pair of Edgemaster's. They explained to me that the gloves are trash and that I should just shut the @#$% up and stick with tanking, and leave the DPS'ing to the DPS Warriors.

Lawl. That same day, one of the DPS Warriors in our guild completed his Warblades of the Hakkari set and got the +6 sword skill bonus. His glancing blows doubled in damage. They all quickly realized that they're idiots.

I quit the guild a couple days later.

Of course, the Hakkari Warblades are mediocre weapons, so you don't want to rely on them for the weapon skill bonus. Get two real 1h'ers and then strap on your Edgemasters. The weapon skill bonus on Edgemaster's will FAR surpass whatever stats you may have lost for wearing them.

Long story short, if you're a dual wield Warrior, get the Edgemaster's. They're the best DPS gloves in the game against raid bosses and high level mobs.

Kommentar von Thottbot

These dropped for me tonight in ST. I think off of one of the trolls, but I can't quite remember. My first epic piece, gonna see how much I can get for them at auction.

EDIT: I got 35g for them, realm Dentarg.

Kommentar von Thottbot

these gloves should be leather IMO

and have50-70% of the armor they have now.

NEED more sword skill as a rogue, and I have both undead and orc rogue. there is absolutely nothing that gives me sword skill in the whole game :/

Kommentar von Allakhazam

..Melee hunters? shamans? pretty sucky if this has to be one of your 1-or-2-in-a-life-time epic drops

I bought them once for 20g though ^^ wanted to test em out and they looked pretty nice

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got these dropped for me in Felwood not long ago.
Not really that good :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

these suck
a lot

Kommentar von Allakhazam

After trying to sell this for 3 weeks, I decided to disenchant it.
Gave 2x Large Radiant Shard.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

*!@#test epic ever

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Woot was contemplating how i did'nt want to go to school tommorow and they dropped for me of a scorpid =] my first epic on my alt.

LOL so happy 10 mins later killed a hyena and he sropped wormslayer spaulders =]

Edited, May 6th 2007 7:35am by forthefalcon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i just got it today in Searing gorge, its ok, but very crappy for a epic.hopefully they make it better in the next patch.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

They LOOK good, on paper, but suck. Imma try to sell them for 1 round, then de them.

Looks like i could get a decent amount from the de too.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped for a guilie and I off a Deadwood Pathfinder in southern Felwood. He was a lvl 60 pally, so he passed them to me (56 warrior) and they are now on the Ironforge AH, Lothar server because despite the wonderful purple text, they pretty much suck. Happy bidding! I need the $$$

BTW: I overcame the temptation to mail them to my low level hunter alt, just for the "purple factor" If they don's sell, I smell a DE coming on...heard stories of 3 large radiant(or brilliant?) shards dropping off of it, not bad at all. I'll get my money/use out of them one way or another. I am not pissed about the drop, they will prove useful.....just not on any of my toons...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

GEt it from a Whitemane stalker in Hinterlands. Was very happy, with my first epic drop:)) hope someone will buy it...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

found em in ST, de'ed got 4 large radiant shards

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I don't care if these to suck it the first purple I have ever got to drop so I just good with that. I a rogue so there useless to me cause I will see if I can get lucky with the AH

Kommentar von Allakhazam

+7 to skill increases the hit chance not so little! Som that bad they are not!.. but there is MUCH better items!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I Got these in ST off of those trolls. It sucks but i am just gonna send them to my 44 shammy :D good timing

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Everyone who calls them crap is complete nub and it also shows that you've never raided :/

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i bought these just bcause they cost 45g =D and they r my first epic items =)
im a hunter btw =D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

A friend asked me to disenchant these for him today (he didn't think he could get them sold, which was probably right on our server). Got 3x large radiant shards.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

ane1 have screenshot?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Won the roll on it in ST last night. Put it on auction for 60G/75G and it got sold within 12 hours.

SO I assume I had a bit of luck reading the other posts :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I was levelling my paladin's lagging weapon skills the other day, and I noticed something: his seal of light would barely proc until the skill of the weapon he was wielding had reached 20 (or was it 15 ? 25?) points below its maximum. As soon as it hit exactly that number though, the proc rate went up like crazy... That happened with the 3 weapons he was practicing with.
So I'm guessing these gloves in combination with proccing weapons or skills should be mighty nice, especially against an opponent who upped his/her defense a lot. Pity it doesn't affect 2-H weapons :-P
Has anyone else done some more rigorous testing on this ?

Edited, Sep 7th 2006 at 1:31pm EDT by hintsofhints

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Note that all the +7 weapon skill stats were changed to +17 weapon rating with the patch. By the conversion rate "Weapon Skill Rating 2.5 rating grants 1 weapon skill", if that can be trusted, this has roughly the same skill modification that it had before the patch.

Theories are nice, but I'd be curious to see someone comment on how these feel post patch.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i just went ZF with my alt and got these .. tobad they suck -.-

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i got those in sunken temple. but i cant get 60g for them :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Against Bosses these are better than Guantlets of anhilation for a DPS melee class on a boss. Doesn't affect 2 handers though. Do not DE these there is bound to be a warrior out there who will pay very well for these.

Equip them for a boss, wear your normal gloves for trash.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What a wretched drop. I was literally bursting with joy when I saw the purple text... And then I saw the details and realized it was utter crap. I'll be lucky to get 20g for it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I gona buy them Today. Why?

because i hate that DAMN glancing hits on bossfights. I get less rage, i get less damage...

and how to prevent glancing hits? Right, weaponskill!

those 7 Weaponskill give you an 9% chance to get an glancing hit, instead of 30%!

For me this means 10DPS more on an Fight against mobs with level 63 (or bosses)

Ofc useless in PVP or against level 60 mobs, but as soon as the mobs bekome higher, the glancin hits take over to suck all youre nice crits and normal hits up.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

These things are hot for raid damage.. I'm using a SR atm, and i'm wondering if the +7 axes effects 2H as well. Can anyone confirm or deny this? with the +5 axes orc racial thats +11 axes, which is incredible on high level raid mobs. I jsut don't want to drop 100g to find out.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

one of these dropped in sunken temple. off of one of the mini bosses you have to kill.. it got ninja'd -_-

Kommentar von Allakhazam

droped of a dino for me in un'goro just now. to bad i want plate :-(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

crap dop... got it from Anvilrage Guard in BRD

Kommentar von Allakhazam

dropped for me in ungoro crater ,just thibk to sell and get profit.and i got first offer 30 mins ago (10 g) and all my dreams shutted..i suppose it should worth much...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Blizzard is changing +weaponskill so that it no longer lessens the amount of damage lost due to glancing blows, but it now adds .1% crit per +weaponskill instead of the .05% that it added in the past.

These gloves are now worthless compared to how godly they used to be. Sell them now before the nerf patch comes and they become useless.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Yeah, they kinda suck, but they were a gift, my first purple, and no alts that could or would be caught dead wearing this.... Since my main lives up to her namesake, I did the dumb thing and equipped it.

Know I shoulda put them in the AH, but the purple factor was too much...as I cavort through SW on my out-of-season reindeer....

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Had them drop for me when I was grinding in WPL, figured I'd try to sell them, some hunter bought them for 70g so now I'm very happy! ^^

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://www.die-mangazone.de/wow/edgemaster.jpg

this is how they look like...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's funny how our knowledge of how stats work in the game has improved over the past year or more. All the old quotes of "these suck" and "DE'ed them" must look pretty silly now given that these are the best DPS gloves in the game for a Dual Wield Warrior in a PvE boss fight.

Skills like +weapon skill and +defense make a huge difference. When a boss is level 63 you will be at a distinct disadvantage when DPSing. The +7 weapon skill on these gloves will really help close the gap. These gloves will help your hits perform better through loosing less damage on glancing blows, therefore they scale well with other high-end kit.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped for my warrior off a spider in Searing Gorge. I was chocked when I saw the purple text but saw the stats and "doh!".
Just hope I can get near the Median price for them.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i got them in st randomly................. to bad i dont have a class that can equip them

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this is so bad it makes baby jebus cry :(

my first random epic drop ever - but hey, easy 30g.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone know what these disenchant into?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I agree that these are not the best. However for a dps warrior who is dual wielding- these are very nice. The people that say these are *!@#ty are a) a paladin or someone who cannot use these, b) just plain stupid and don't know what dps means in the first place c) had a chinese gold farmer level their charcter to 70. So. Anyways i have a 56 Paladin on Gul'dan.. it's a shame that these are so hard to sell because they do function great as an epic for a dps warrior! Not a lot of people get it i guess and until blizz adds more stats then these will remain one the the most underestimated items of wow. Icemail Jerkin does suck, and these however- do not.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Nuke is not the only one in WOW.

L2P and learn concepts like defense, skill weapon etc for pve.

Kommentar von teakwood54

These are BIS for meme race warriors (non human/orc) and here's why:

Without weapon skill, warriors need 9% hit to never miss a boss with yellow abilities. With weapon skill they only need 6% BUT that's not all; with higher weapon skill you will have a lower damage penalty for glancing blows. Also, if you had 9% hit then got these, you can switch out pieces for more crit or higher strength instead. If you are aiming for top parses you need to either be human/orc and use swords/axes OR be any race and use Edgemaster's.

Over 305 weapon skill has a big drop in effectiveness so if you're human and are already using swords you don't need to bother with these. As an orc I got these anyway because there aren't many axes in the game at this point/they aren't dropping for my guild (P3).

Kommentar von IsItButter

Nobody cares where your Edgemaster's dropped. They can drop off any mob in the mid-40s to mid-50s range.

Kommentar von AoBman05

These are great for non-Orc/Human warriors (commonly referred as 'meme races' in classic). But this item is stupid expensive on most servers, and are a bit overrated...

Don't get me wrong, it's an insanely good item, but there's a few good alternatives for this item that won't burn a ~5k gold hole in your wallet and will still allow you to perform well in raids DPS/Threat wise.

The easiest to get option is Straßenräubergürtel, which drops off Captain Kromcrush in Dire Maul North. It's arguably one the best options for weapon skill gear because belts have little stat budget anyway. Tanks can use it and a strong dagger like a Kernhundzahn for threat tanking and won't notice the loss of tankiness from using a leather belt. Fury warriors can also use the belt and two good daggers to take the 'Rogue in Plate' meme to its logical conclusion. There's also Ablenkender Dolch, Alte Kernlederhandschuhe, and Reif der ruhelosen Träume, but these are much harder to come by, especially Reif der ruhelosen Träume since it's a world boss drop. You also face stiff competition for these because these are very good (arguably BiS level) for dagger rogues and warrior tanks with threat builds.

Horde warriors can also opt to get a Scharfkantige Obsidianklinge and spec 2H fury and still deal solid DPS (or use any of the 2H axes from BWL and AQ40 if orc). Knochenhäschers Schneide is also a really strong option due to its overpowered proc. You are more dependent on getting Windfury Totem from a shaman than DW fury, but the payout is still huge.

Lastly, there's Expertenhelm des Goldminenarbeiters. You lose out on being able to use some of the best helms in Classic such as Löwenherzhelm or Helm der unendlichen Rage with it equipped and are pigeonholed into using axes. But you can make up for LHH with a Gamaschen der Titanen as of Phase 5. Axes also have less loot competition than the other weapon types, and Phase 5 adds two axes from rep related quests in the raid zones which are good BiS options (Gesegnete Qirajikriegsaxt and Sichel der unnachgiebigen Stärke).

Kommentar von CultAdvisor

a former guildee tried to snake these form me for a quick buck, but Elindre from Windseeker Alliance secured them for me and my warrior was able to equip them! Thank you so much Elindre! This wasn't even the first time that she has stood up for me and had my back either!
I cannot express how much of a loyal caring and supportive friend she is! She is SO great to her team!
It warms my heart just to think of her for a single second.
She is such a breath of fresh air from the average gamer!
She is also super fun and hilarious, I didn't even meet her until phase 5 but she quickly became one of my closest friends!
But don't take my word for it, if you are wondering where to create or transfer your beloved toons for Classic TBC, give Windseeker Alliance a try! .
You won't regret it!
And despite her lack of knowledge/interest in content and itemization she has created a very successful guild.
And despite being a somewhat fresh guild, with her moral fabric at the core, all obstacles will be conquered!
Elindre is the kind of person who unless you develp Alzheimers or Dementia, you will never forget! <3
Truly a place to call home.

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