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Kommentar von Piril

In before Captain Planet's Jokes.

Kommentar von chase123

Fool, its obvious the next watcher after this one will be Ma-Tivalon, the Heart Watcher.

and then.........the real threat to Azeroth will show himself.

Kommentar von kikovsk

How's VoA's map with this new boss? Up to Koralon, there were only 3 chambers... Is it redesigned so that there are 4 symmetrical chambers? Or do we have an attached one to the previous 3?

Kommentar von Interest

Boss strategy:

Firstly, the boss will occasionally apply a stacking DoT (and snare) on the tank (think Gormok, except it's a frost DoT), which requires tank switches to allow the debuff to fall off.

Secondly, the boss makes tiny rings that will spawn adds that deals aoe frost damage to nearby players.

For every wave of adds spawned, the boss will then use Whiteout, which makes players take 25% increased Frost damage. This is a stacking debuff and serves as a soft enrage timer, like Koralon's stacking damage buff.

I think I got about everything. Looks like a pretty easy boss that requires target switching...(the add's health pools overall have only a tiny bit more health than a single Emalon add.)

Kommentar von 260381

What sucks is the new hall for Toravon makes the Vault a lot larger, making Earth, Wind, and Fire all that much trickier.

Kommentar von Icecoldcoke

Toravon is now ready to be defeated!

Loot (source)

10man - Previous arena season gear (Relentless Gladiator) & 10man version of new tier 10 loot (legs & gloves)
25man - Current arena season gear (Wrathful Gladiator) & 25man version of new tier 10 loot (legs & gloves)

He will also drop honor boots and belt.

Both 10 & 25man modes will likely drop 2 emblems of frost.

Kommentar von 444966

The world will be broken...
A new age will begin...
The Alliance and Horde may only CLING to hope!
Deathwing will return.
...Oh wait am I wrong here? :)

Kommentar von Herecius

If you read Archavon's Log outside of the entrance to VoA, it actually explains why they're all in there. They're all 'watchers' evidently watching and guarding over the elements in Wintergrasp (note how WG is full of elemental mobs - curious that we don't get a Shadow Watcher boss). Archavon was the first to wake up, and notes in his log that his 'brothers,' being the other bosses released one patch at a time, are waking up as well.

He is apparently happy not to be lonely anymore. But very sad that people want to steal the shiny things that him and his friends have.

Kommentar von 36674

The next "boss" should be twins representing Life and Shadow.

They will be kids that wont drop tier but rather the new Epic Greens in Cataclysm.

Kommentar von Rattja

There are room for another wing at the oposite side, they could put a shadow one there. Just a guess though.

Kommentar von 377604

"...but together we make a more powerfull fifth element......Boron"

Kommentar von Magmy

Bornakk made a blue post stating what Toravon drops. He will drop T10 and S8 Gloves/Pants. In terms of non-set PvP loot, Bornakk said he would only be dropping Belt and Boots. So he will have a slightly smaller loot table than Koralon because he will not be able to drop Bracers/Necks/Cloaks/Rings.

Source:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22418707801&pageNo=1&sid=1#11

Kommentar von Wenduri

After Ma-Tivlon the Heart Watcher will SURELY be Captilon the Planet Watcher.

Kommentar von Quilan

real threat to Azeroth? The Lich King? Deathwing? Sargeras?

but for now, this'll do : /

Kommentar von 43040

lol... look at the 3-d model and then look at the under parts of his feet.... He's walked over many ally and horde!

Kommentar von 405835

I think they shuld add a shadow boss on the other side and once all, I MEAN ALL, of the bosses are defeated one of the holes will open and you can dive down to a Life element boss and that one should drop: proc rings/trinkets/recipes/mounts etc. special @#$% ya know?
(Dont mark this down cause ur to lazy to want to kill 3 extra 2min bosses to get to the good one)
Not to bad of an idea, no?

Kommentar von 211524

The adds will most likely function similarly to the adds that spawn in the Asembly of Iron fight from Ulduar, when leaving Runemaster Molgeim up last. Meaning that ranged DPS will have to kill them before they are allowed to get close to anyone as their combined AOE could easily cause a wipe if they are allowed near the raid.

Kommentar von 145044

There's also life elementals, so perhaps we'll see a life boss as well?

Kommentar von Janiy

It should be noted that the Adds have no threat table and can't be tanked. DPS should all switch to the adds as they are spawned to kill them asap so the debuff doesn't wipe the raid.

Kommentar von 340526

If you look on the map the instance is not simetric anymore...will blizz implement a new raid/season so one more watcher will be added?

Kommentar von 344795

If you read the journal outside of VoA you will see that Archy was alone at first then he discovered that emmy was just "sleeping" and he shared some of his treasure with him. then he procedes to gripe about how nobody wants to kill him anymore you jerkbags who leave after killing Coraline you know who you are you make Archy sad giant. ANYWAY they wake up and open their rooms up and archy gives them better loot/ How Tory found a way to alter the fabric of space and change around the layout of a freaking VAULT i have no idea but up until Tory everything made sense

and yes i know i got the names weird thats just how i think of them

Kommentar von 195360

His ability Frozen Orb spawns an orb of ice that fires frostbolt-like rays all around it.

The name, look, and effect is an exact copy of the Diablo II sorceress spell, Frozen Orb

(not surprising, as both games are by Blizzard)

Kommentar von 94144

So I tried the raid today, and it went... rough. We wiped twice and then tank had to run off for an emergency work call. While I see the need to down the adds, I don't see how this will be done effectively when the adds move as fast as they do, (They were right on top of ranged before we could even blink) Que?

Kommentar von 262364

Really easy fight. PUG'ed it and cleared on first try. Tanks swap at 5 stacks. Ranged take down the adds while melee stay on boss. Melee will take alot of damage if they try to assist on adds. Other than that, straight tank and spank.

Kommentar von reyan

Confirmed today that paladins can bubble off the stacks of whiteout (well at least in the 10 man version)

edit: im not sure if iceblocking or similar spells can remove the debuff. let me know!

Kommentar von Brasso

Tanks can take several stacks before it gets out of hand, so do not be too worried if a tank's taunt is on CD (it shouldn't). I took up to 8 stacks without trouble.

(Downrated again by idiots.)

Kommentar von Volital

Just a little fyi you can disarm him as well it helps alot

Kommentar von 455389

Rogues - I noticed that we can Cloak of Shadows off the debuff. Just a friendly heads up :)

Kommentar von ShadeolTheFox

Just attempted this boss on 10-man VoA. Here's what he does (from what I've seen).

Frozen Orb
A circle will be placed upon the ground. About 5-7 seconds after it's placed, an add named "Frozen Orb" will come out. It does about 3000-3500 Magical AoE damage per second and will go around the room until it dies.
Tips
Death Knights can Anti-Magic Shell the Frozen Orb damage for Runic Power.
Warriors can, obviously, Berserker Rage for extra rage gain.
Rogues can Cloak of Shadows. I suggest only using it if you have severly low HP.

Frostbite
A debuff that the boss will occasionally give the tank. It is a DoT that ensnares the tanks. The two tanks should taunt off each other at 5 or so stacks to allow the other tank to get rid of his debuff. Think of it like Gluth's fight.

Freezing Ground
A random piece of the ground will get covered in ice and immobilize the people inside for 5 seconds. You'll want to try and dodge these or the Frozen Orb will most likely kill you.

Whiteout
A debuff that the boss will cast upon the death of a (group of) Frozen Orb(s). It will do a set amount of damage and apply a stack of Whiteout, which increases frost damage taken by 15%*. The stacks will stay until the end of the fight.
It is said that Paladins, Magi, and Rogues* can get rid of this.

This boss is a DPS race. On 10-man, I'd suggest at least everyone be 3-3.5k dps assuming you have:

2 Tanks
2-3 Healers
3-4 Ranged
2-3 Melee

Strategy:

Melee
As a melee, all you really have to do is focus on the boss. Toravon is a DPS race and pretty much requires you to be on the boss at all times.

Ranged
Ranged will also be DPS'ing the boss, but their main priority over everything are the orbs. If you don't take these out fast enough, they make the healers' job even worse and can even wipe the raid.

Healers
Essentially, keep everyone alive and dodge the orbs. The tanks will be taking the most damage out of everyone due to the stacking DoT and Frostbite debuff.

Tanks
It really helps to have an addon that will show the Target of Target's debuff stack (such as X-Perl UnitFrames). When the stacks reach 4 or 5 (this can be decided amongst yourselves, depending on the tanks' health), the other tank will taunt off and allow the first tank enough time to get rid of his DoT.
Death Knight Tanking Tips:
There are 2 different situtations where Anti-Magic Shell comes in handy.

Use it when the other tanks taunts off so you can absorb the damage while waiting out the stacks.
Use it before the boss casts Whiteout (generally when you have ~3 stacks of it already) and absorb the huge AoE damage.

Raid Composition

Toravon should be in the middle of the room.
The tanks should be facing Toravon towards the back.
The melee should be right on Toravon's back.
The ranged/healers should be spread out in a semi-circle behind Toravon.

(* = Fixed Mistakes)

Kommentar von GhostFlight

Frostbite is what gets placed on the tanks

Kommentar von 24996

I smell a buffing incoming, seems to be too easy to be the 4th of 4 graduated difficulty bosses.

Kommentar von 516541

HEART!

Imagine all the players to fall in love with each other. Massive AOE.

Kommentar von 41671

Tank advice:
We swapped to the other tank after 3 stacks of the Frostbite debuff, that seemed to give it enough time to fall off before re-swapping.

DPS advice:
If you notice that you have aggro, it means a Frozen Orb is after you. It helps to kite it away from other group members to minimize raid damage.

Healer advice:
Healing intensifies as the fight goes on due to the 15% additional frost damage stacked on everyone every time Toravon casts Whiteout. Be ready with AoE heals when Whiteout is cast, and get ready to spam heals if the stack gets to 6+ (90%+ increased frost damage).

Kommentar von d3xx

I'm trying to do a targeting macro for the adds:
/tar frozen orb

Problem is it targets the add corpses as well. What could i use to just target live frozen orbs?

Kommentar von nolervik

This is another super easy way to get to your t10 parts.

Tacts:
Tanks do a taunt rotation. Every now and then, Toravon will release blue flying orbs, ranged kills them asap. Melee just zerg boss.

Kommentar von 296433

For people wondering about the tactics:

Randomly throughout the fight, Toravon spawns "Frozen Orbs"... I believe they have 160k HP on the 10-man encounter. The put out around 3k aoe damage, so they are to be kited and nuked by the ranged dps and avoided by the melees. They are not to be tanked.

Sadly I didn't time this, but Toravon seems to cast "Whiteout" sometimes, which deals 10k aoe dps and also gives a debuff increasing frost damage taken by 25%, but this will scale with the debuff given to tanks*, so healers need to be quick on their feet to pull up the raid.

*Tank debuff - Increases frost damage taken by 25%(?). Stacks. Tanks should switch at 3 stacks. I don't believe they can taunt while the debuff is up, so the other tank should taunt when his debuff has faded.

Toravon can also be disarmed in both 10 and 25 player modes, though the debuff is still applied.

Just sharing the info I have :) Please correct me if anything is wrong.
Apologies for not having accurate times or data.

Edit: If this wasn't obvious already, he does drop T10 legs/hands and Wrathful (S8) legs/hands.
He also drops 2x Frost Emblem, rather than triumph.

Kommentar von pezz

Last night my guild gave this guy a few attempts after ToC 25, and while the orbs seem to do the most overall damage, the burst nature of Whiteout tends to mean most raid deaths happen directly because of it or a few seconds after.

DBM wasn't sure yet but I eyeballed the time between Whiteouts at around 40 seconds. I think there's some variance (it's on a 10 second CD but he definitely doesn't cast it that fast) based on what you do with the adds, but for argument's sake let's say 40 seconds.

Your ret paladins and holy paladins should have Aura Mastery, and your Holy paladins should hopefully have Divine Guardian. With three such paladins you can alternate Aura Masteries the whole fight through and cut Whiteout's damage by about ~40%. With two Aura Masteries and Divine Guardian you can try this sort of rotation:

AM -> AM -> DiGuard -> AM -> AM -> wipe. But, the first two Whiteouts are a breeze to heal through so you could start at the third one. Seven stacks of the soft enrage will probably lead to a wipe whether you have an extra CD handy or not.

This won't work in ten man, and if you got enough paladins who knew how to spec and who knew how to coordinate in a pug I'd be pretty amazed, but if your guild's having trouble rotation CDs on just two or three paladins can make a huge difference.

Kommentar von dumac

10 man boss

The Boss Has only one orb spawn, the area it spawns turns into a blow glow so you can easily see it.

Tank the boss in middle of the room. Your ranged dpser need to switch to the orb and nuke it down. Your two tank should taunt switch after you get 4 stacks of frost on you, three if the tank is undergeared. Bring 2-3 range for the orbs sake and you should do it. It is a pretty easy and straightforward fight so just rinse and repeat.

The Boss also got a soft enrage timer as a dedot who stacks who increase frost damage.

25 man boss

The attacks are the same but now instead of three orbs he spawns 3 at the same time. The orbs will spawn close to boss. You should get at least 50%+ ranged dpser due ranged dpser will be more valuable for this fight than a melee is.

Instead of tanking it in middle you should tank it near the wall of either right or left and kite the boss then orbs spawns along the wall, this is to make sure melee get a more breathing room then orbs spawns and so they can still dps the boss.
Switch always at 3 now between your tanks. 2 tanks will work but three tanks will make the switching alot easier due 3 frost can mean that the debuff not vanished from the previous tank if two in time.
Try to bring a shaman and pop heroism then your frost stack is around 3 to 4 stacks on whole raid. If you get 5 stacks your raid will most likely die.

The 25 man version is alot harder so be prepared to wipe, you also need at least 3k+ dpsers in raid. High dps fight.

(This is what i could tell then i did him on the release day)

Kommentar von aneossino

Hmm, guys I don't know about the "Waves of adds" that you say.

I just saw 1 add spawning each time.
When we did it, 1 add spawned on the circle, and it was a big frostbolt-looking thing, that targeted someone and chased him.
Had 3 total adds, but only 2 whiteouts. (Boss died just before the 3rd add did)

Did AoE damage to everyone around it (around 3-4k I'd say) with ~160k HP on the 10man version.
But the raid should avoid it, as with Whiteout it could get up to 6k.

I have to say that overall, it's not really a hard fight. At least not worth the loot it drops.
It's healing intense if you 2man heal it, we had a total of 9k healing.
Tank damage was rough, if you consider that I, as a Holy Paladin did 6k, and the Resto shaman who was raid-healing did 3k.
Though Whiteout really hurt. Dropped the whole raid at 50% of their HP, on the 1st stack. So I believe that if you get a 4th Whiteout, the whole raid will die instantly.

DPS requirement isn't too high. An average of 4.5k DPS should be enough to kill it with 3 Whiteouts.

Drops T10 (iLvl251), and PvP Neck/Belt (iLvl251), just like all the other bosses.

Kommentar von 322464

Downed him on 25 man last night with a PuG. Took us a couple of attempts, then got him down after replacing some poor dps. (I didn't have recount running, but there were players claiming that some where doing 1k dps ect.)

Raid positioning isn't a huge issue for this boss. We had the hunters and mages kiting frost orbs down the hall safely away from the raid and running back for heals. I can't say for sure that this made it any easier, but as long as ranged switch to the orbs, and no one sits on them, it's pretty easy.

Kommentar von redandgray

25-man is a lot harder than 10-man.

Frost Resist gear and a Paladin Frost Aura make a noticeable difference, especially for the tanks and healers.

P.S. If you get smacked by an orb right before the boss casts Whiteout, you're gonna be hurting.

Kommentar von Vatigu

Lmao as someone mentioned earlier he's not immune to disarm. My 10 man group that had several severely undergeared dps downed him with ease second attempt because we had a rogue an arms warr (one of the terribad dps) and myself a prot warr, my alternate spec also had the improved disarm talent. We had him disarmed for more than 50% of the fight, and when my disarm was up improved raid DPS by 10%. So it's official this boss can be cheesed.

Kommentar von Maliander

Can anyone give extra information on the Frozen Orbs?

Do they follow normal threat rules?
Can they be taunted?
Can they be slowed?
Can they be stunned?
Can they be rooted?
Are they immune/resistant to frost damage?

Some combat log diving shows them to definitely be immune to slows, dazes and stuns. Most likely to roots as well, will need to check better to be sure. They are not resistant or immune to frost damage (remarkably little frost damage going around btw).

Feedback from various sources is 50/50 divided between random aggro and normal threat rules so uncertain on that. Not a single source claims they are tauntable, so probably taunt immune.

Need to look better at spawn intervals, but the one I clocked was 33 seconds for 25 man.

Kommentar von 254941

For god's sake...

Add drops for Toravon - what's the purpose of using client when there is no list of items we uploading...

And as for the Frozen Orbs as long as I know (did 10 yesterday and wiped 3 times on 25 they DON'T choose random person - I agrroed them...

Kommentar von kuwarudo

Captilon the Planet Watcher will appear after you down the Ma-Tivalon the Heart Watcher, right?

Edit: Ma-Tivalon will probably use all kinds of Mind Control on the raid group :<

Kommentar von 524224

what is hes loot

Kommentar von 223475

It is the ONLY boss inside raid Voa25 that drops (3) three epics ilvl264, all the previous dropped (4)four epics, now why i believe that maybe was done on purpose...

Kommentar von Peter0604

Weird........This guy actually got a weapon.

Kommentar von 395672

I have participated in five VoAs now, and only succeeded once on 10-man. I have healed twice, (once on 10, once on 25) and tanked three times, (twice on 10, once on 25) and I am fairly certain that the Frozen Orbs follow some sort of bizzare aggro table. Well, maybe not an aggro table.

I can taunt the Orb. It will respond and come after me for a bit. But as soon as my Growl wears off, it will, despite having a Feral Faerie Fire, Mangle and Maul laid down on it, will move off to make some clothie's life miserable. I seriously doubt that each and every time I've tanked it, that there is ANYONE that is putting out enough damage to pull aggro off me after I've used my taunt and three highest-threat moves. I don't think they can be slowed, either, Infected Wounds was not showing up on them.

I vaguely suspect that the Frozen Orbs have a target switching mechanism built into it, something like the Ghouls summoned by the Black Knight, back in ToC. (Remember that? Those Ghouls have a "and pick a new target" built into their attacks.) Except in this case, instead of leveling an attack at someone, it just turns on auto-follow and continues to blast its AoE damage aura.

The orbs do not explode. They do not have any kind of death explosion, which is a blessing. But they put out a large amount of steady raid damage that needs to be topped off ASAP, which only gets worse as Toravon stacks the Whiteout on the raid. Rejuv blanketing is a godsend here.

This is definitely a three-healer job on 10-man. Do NOT skimp on the healing just because it is a DPS race. Maybe down the line, once people have three and four pieces of ICC-level gear, but not yet. My group was able to succeed with 2 Trees and a PVP-specced Holy/Disc priest. I highly suspect that a dedicated Disc priest raid-healing would have smoothed things out a lot more. We wound up with 8/10 taking a dirt nap, but were successful in the end.

So, to recap:

Toravon does not appear to cleave. Tank him wherever you like, but for orb visibility purposes, tank him off to the side.
(edit) Avoidance tanks, if there remains such a thing in this ICC environment, are probably at a premium here, given that Toravon does not have a 100% chance to apply the tank debuff on each hit. More dodges/parries gives an already not-certain debuff less chances to hit, so the tank(s) take(s) less damage when Whiteout rolls around.
When you see the glowy blue patches on the ground, EVERYONE runs away. (edit: Not sure about the everyone, anymore. Tank can probably soak the extra one orb, two, if they're not yet getting up there in stacks of the debuff, but if the orb spawns in melee range on Toravon, all melee might as well switch and kill it that much faster. Melee charging off to kill distant orbs is a definate DPS loss, though.) I'm not yet certain if it should be to stack up in a clear part of the room or to spread out yet, but I am leaning towards stacking to make it easier to raidheal through the damage.
All (edit: ranged) DPS needs to stop hitting the boss and kill the orbs. (edit: Not sure about melee DPS, probably kill any that are close to the tank.)
After the orbs go down, All DPS shift back to Toravon.
There should be a bit of time between the orbs dying and the Whiteout cast. Healers should be buffering heals 5-10 seconds before Whiteout, depending on raid size. That means dropping Regrowth, Rejuvenate, Renew, Riptide, raidheal-style PW:S pre-emptively.
Whiteout hits hard, and will only hit harder as time goes on. Stacked HoTs helps bring the raid back up to full faster, so you can be ready for the next Frozen Orbs to spawn.

(edit: Things to verify: Rootability of the orbs. I don't think the root effect on Bear Feral Charge was stopping them, but I need to check and make sure. Things are a bit fuzzy. Also need to test Death Gripping the orbs. AMZ would be good for this encounter, Unholy DKs are known to spec AMZ for PVP, so it should be readily available. If things work as planned, three DKs death-gripping an orb apiece, and pulling them into an AMZ would mean tasty, tasty Death Coil spam. Except for that whole Unholy Blight thing that Unholy DKs tend to spec into. Need to test AMZ rotation, compare with dropping AMZ raidwide in order to buy healers time when four or five stacks of Whiteout are up.)

TL;DR: Raid damage-heavy healer-check tank-swapping DPS race requiring target-switching with a soft enrage.

edit: clarifying some ideas, adding some others. Me sleep-dep tank am good brainer!

Kommentar von Coincidence

For all you recount junkies, keep in mind that killing the orbs reduces dps substantially. I just watched as, after a wipe, the raid leader proceeded to remove half a dozen of the lowest dps according to recount. They happened to all be ranged dps who were doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing, killing orbs. That left us with only the ranged dps who were doing what they were not supposed to be doing, dpsing the boss. Needless to say the raid failed.

Kommentar von 156237

Easy Tacs

Ranged on Orbs
Melee On Boss
Healers Heal
Tank switch at 2 or 3 stacks

Kommentar von Tyrsis

God im one lucky bastard... it came out wensday(today is friday) i just did the 25 man one and got t10.5 gloves and legs :O

Kommentar von sTyLnK

To many times everyone says range is not killing the orbs, but everything is going smoothly until the orbs spawn literally right on top of the boss or close to the melee. No one moves so we can't do much. Other people specifically melee have to move or they will die in seconds. I'm sure many of you have encountered this already.

Kommentar von 528638

The Whiteout will one shot the clothies eventually. After a couple wipes, we went with 2 elite healers, 2 tanks, 2 melee and 4 ranged and downed him in 4 min without losing anyone. The key was to have all dps 100% ensure they get away from the spawning orbs ASAP to avoid unnecessary raid damage.

And he dropped the Lock and DK pieces, and we didn't have either class!

Kommentar von Hollowed

Also, it should be noted to Death Knight tanks that his "Whiteout" can be stopped if you use Anti-Magic Shell as he is casting it.
Although you can use the shield to take less damage from orbs, it is a much larger help to heals if you use AMS right as "Whiteout" is cast, as a tank at least, due to the fact the debuff increases damage taken from all frost damage, including the DoT you get.

EDIT: Seeing as I'm getting downranked for no stated cause, no one else suggested using AMS to counter Whiteout. It HAD been mentioned that you could use it on orbs, just not to avoid a raidwide debuff. If I have somehow missed something, please inform me. It had been mentioned that you could AMS the frozen orbs, but not, however, the debuff itself.

Kommentar von Volital

I was also informed that paladin tanks can bubble the debuff off

Kommentar von 210565

The adds Spawned are these Frozen Orb, wonder how much damage they do?

Kommentar von rzzr

A tip for Death Knights. Whilst you are melee and will be just on the boss, not the orbs, remember to use Pestilence to spread deseases to the Orbs. This will help out the ranged and you won't pull aggro. It will also send your DPS through the roof :-)

Kommentar von monopoman

He just watches you take his gear!

This is a joke of a boss.

Kommentar von Ketho

Toravon the Ice Watcher - Frozen Mallet -> Frostbite (10), Whiteout (10), Freezing Ground (10), Frozen Orb (10)
- Frozen Orb - Frozen Orb (10)
Frost Warder - Frozen Mallet -> Frostbite (10), Frost Blast (10)

Kommentar von 469611

wow, whos next Herathon the Heart Mender?

come to think of it, If you added that , the next step is Captillion the Planet Guardian :O!

"Captain Planet, hes our hero , gonna take pollution down to zero!"

- unknown

Kommentar von rcuosukgi42

Just wanted to point out that since this is the last pvp season before cataclysm comes out, that there will almost assuredly not be a 5th VoA boss, so fortunately captain planet may stay safely tucked away in the lower elemental planes where he belongs.... unless wait Deathwing isn't powerful enough to destroy Azeroth by himself is he?

Kommentar von 551498

Keep the ranged DPS on Frozen orbs and this fight is realy easy

Kommentar von 552527

The percentage is so low, especially the pally stuff :(

Kommentar von silverd

I don't know if this is a bug or not, but when I tanked Toravon, the other tank and I decided to simply taunt off once our own stacks of Frostbite wore off. For some reason though, he was immune to my taunt sometimes, once the DK took over, she didn't seem to have any problems taunting back. Last week our tank also reported something similar. Is this a bug or does he have some ability that prevents taunting?

Kommentar von 336987

Mage gear is a damn lie.

Unless you aren't a mage. Then it's a unified truth.

Kommentar von knarel

when the orbs spawn all ranged DPS need to be on him or you get a wipe.

Kommentar von 111622

He drops T10 legs and gloves.

Best to save your Frost emblems until after you down this boss, you don't wanna buy something you obtain from a /roll on this guy, that would be a waste of 90 or so emblems.

Kommentar von 551520

The drop rate of any death knight gear is extremely low. You actually have a better chance of getting a Grand Black War Mammoth then seeing Death Knight tier gear drop.

Kommentar von 466193

We have nothing but PVP gear drop off him for the last 3 weeks in both the 10man and 25man not sure if it is bad luck or if he is broken.

Kommentar von 466840

Quick question from druid tank point of view: is there a reason to stack frost resistance?
Im thinking about mixing polar set (287 FR): Polarstiefel, Polarweste, Polarkordel with other items (average ilvl 240).

Kommentar von 394410

You can solo tank this as a paladin. Hit Divine Shield around 50% and it'll clear your stacks.

This might also be doable with other classes if a paladin is available to give them Hand of Protection.
Make sure to click off your bubble as soon as possible, as he'll chase after someone else.
Since this is zerg style, you'll need to have enough health and enough raid damage to handle taking the stacks and killing him before the stacks get too high. Of course, he's still a loot piñata so neither of those requirements are that tight.

Kommentar von 564344

no, but for fun, you can. I tanked it with 580 frost resistance on 25man, and I was able to solo tank it till 20 stacks, where the damage starts becoming very lethal. was hitting me for around 20k damage (healers should still be able to keep that up..)

10man is a joke.

Kommentar von 318094

If the battle is taking too long and whiteout stacks are getting too high, abilities that remove all debuffs on you (ice block, divine protection, etc.) can completely remove the whiteout stacks, allowing you to last for a few more rounds where other classes cannot.

Edit: I will never understand why correct information that hasn't been brought up before gets downrated on Wowhead. It's like some super secret group wants to hide the truth or something.

Kommentar von 258919

Simple and straightforward. Any geared group that can pull off proper DPS can do it.

With Whiteout and the debuff on the tanks, the healers will probably have the toughest time here just keeping the raid alive. Tanking is easy, just hold aggro (I don't think you need to face him away from the raid but it does help reduce clutter) and have the tanks swap aggro at 4 stacks of the debuff (tanks should make sure their stacks have worn off before taunting). DPSers just kill the adds when they spawn and burn the boss otherwise.

Kommentar von 326310

His Whiteout spell seems to have been nerfed in a hotfix from 25% down to 15%.
After a bit of seaching I found this blue post

In the Toravon encounter, the effect of the Whiteout debuff has been reduced. Additionally, the damage done by Frozen Orbs has been reduced

Kommentar von 608743

if i knew he drops t10 and arena season 8 gear i wouldnt waste my time in ICC and donating...

Kommentar von 559082

Algalon the observer won't be happy with Captivon the planet watcher!

Kommentar von 95299

A 2 tank setup will need to taunt Toravon as the debuff on the other tank reaches 4 stacks, which allows time for their own to clear.

Kommentar von Faradize

if you got frost rez for sindragosa you can solo tank this, no matter what class are you

Kommentar von Engelrift

Anyone else noticed that Toravon and Koralon both have significantly less wealth than the other boss's in VoA? Is this incentive for raids to do the older boss's for lower item level gear, or was there just a budget cut when they were released?

Kommentar von 674759

if deathwing and toravan fight each other, will his beard finally melt(i.e. just 0.1 seconds before he dies)?

Kommentar von marc4551

He has the best drops

Kommentar von alexiel

We were able to do this boss with 2 tanks, 1 DPS and 1 healer all 85. Our group consists of a feral druid, a prot warrior, a shadow priest doing 12k dps and a disc priest. Don't forget to have the tanks taunt off each other when the debuff runs out.

Kommentar von cloud165

worth 22 honor at 85 with guild perks

Kommentar von StealthyAssassin

Meele just dps, range dps, kill orbs

Kommentar von Jakemanjake

Managed to duo this with (me) A bear with pvp kitty talents and full pvp gear along with a blood dk,we managed to down him 2nd try after we remembered it was a 2 tank fight with me trying to heal him through it which didn't turn out well. Once we both taunted when necessary it went fine. And to top it off the mount dropped!

Kommentar von djkroo

Isn't the t10 legs for druid missing in the loot list? Or does druid legs not dropping from Toravon?

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